ATP 3071 whp
#46
Originally Posted by trinydex
this is a stretch the say the least. for a given similar gearing pull, a stroked or even 2.4'ed evo will never spool a 35r like stock. there will always be a 1000rpm difference. you're hittin' full boost in the 4k range... not the mid 3k range (in third gear).
Also, boomtown, the 3071 spooled much later than expected. I was getting full boost between 3900 and 4000 rpm. Granted, some of that is due to how my engine is built (it's all geared towards topend), but we compared my dyno charts to a 50 trim dyno chart, and the 50 trim was spooling earlier and is able to make more power up top. Go figure.
We'll see what the 50 trim can do on my car next week.
l8r)
#47
Here is the 50 trim mapped next to the GT3071R.
Assumptions made for both are:
- 2.0 liter
- 21 psi
- 100*F intake
and...
Point 1 is 10 psi, 3250RPM @ 75%VE
Point 2 is 21 psi, 4500RPM @ 100%VE
Point 3 is 21 psi, 7000RPM @ 100%VE
-Brian
Assumptions made for both are:
- 2.0 liter
- 21 psi
- 100*F intake
and...
Point 1 is 10 psi, 3250RPM @ 75%VE
Point 2 is 21 psi, 4500RPM @ 100%VE
Point 3 is 21 psi, 7000RPM @ 100%VE
-Brian
#49
One of the biggest problems with the compressor maps is that they do not accurately represent the actual turbos going onto Evos. You can get a very general idea to see if the turbo will suit the application, but that's about as far as you can take them.
Also, I think the assumption of 10 psi @ 75% VE @ 3250 rpm is not realistic with the bigger turbos. My boost gauge doesn't clear 5 psi until the turbo (3071) really begins to spool up, which is around 3400 rpm. Then it rapidly ramps up until full boost is reached around 3900-4000 rpm.
l8r)
Also, I think the assumption of 10 psi @ 75% VE @ 3250 rpm is not realistic with the bigger turbos. My boost gauge doesn't clear 5 psi until the turbo (3071) really begins to spool up, which is around 3400 rpm. Then it rapidly ramps up until full boost is reached around 3900-4000 rpm.
l8r)
#50
Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Perhaps I should rephrase my statement. It's true that on the street full boost will be made just before 4000 rpm. However, Smoggys car looks like it is making identical power to the stage 1+ during spoolup (e.g. when the TME hit it's peak torque, the stroked 35r was producing almost the same amount of torque).
Also, boomtown, the 3071 spooled much later than expected. I was getting full boost between 3900 and 4000 rpm. Granted, some of that is due to how my engine is built (it's all geared towards topend), but we compared my dyno charts to a 50 trim dyno chart, and the 50 trim was spooling earlier and is able to make more power up top. Go figure.
We'll see what the 50 trim can do on my car next week.
l8r)
Also, boomtown, the 3071 spooled much later than expected. I was getting full boost between 3900 and 4000 rpm. Granted, some of that is due to how my engine is built (it's all geared towards topend), but we compared my dyno charts to a 50 trim dyno chart, and the 50 trim was spooling earlier and is able to make more power up top. Go figure.
We'll see what the 50 trim can do on my car next week.
l8r)
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