Mitsubishi OEM turbo specifications (including flow rates)
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Mitsubishi OEM turbo specifications (including flow rates)
Mitsubishi OEM Turbo Specifications
Flow Rates @ 15psi:
TDO4-9B-6CM2 265 CFM
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM
TDO7S-25G-17CM2 850 CFM
TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM
Max Output:
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi
T25 (stock 2nd gen) 235-250hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.5 hybrid 265-280hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.8 hybrid 270-320hp @ ?? psi
Evolution 1
Turbo = TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Exhaust turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide
Evolution 2
Turbo = TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide
Evolution 3
Turbo = TD05H–16G6-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 4
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 5
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy), Titanium alloy (RS)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 6
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy), Titanium alloy (RS/RS2)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 6 : Tommi Makinen Edition
Turbo = TD05RA-15GK2-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Titanium alloy for both RS/RS2/GSR!
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm (gsr) - 68mm(rs) wide
Evolution 7
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy), RS/Rs2=Titanium alloy
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 7 GTA
Turbo = TD05-15GK2-9.0T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.0
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm wide
Evolution 8
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR / USDM)
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2 & NZDM) or 6MT:TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (model unknown)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = USDM EVO 8 & JDM GSR =Inconel (steel alloy),
RS=Titanium alloy.
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution MR aka "8.5"
GSR = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T or TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (Ti Alloy option)
RS = 6MT:TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T or 5MT:TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 or 9.8(RS-5speed)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 9
USDM & JDM = TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T
Turbine: GSR / GT = Inconel alloy, RS = Titanium alloy
Compressor: GSR / GT = Aluminium, RS = Magnesium Alloy
(??) mm wide (to be verified.)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 (note: to be confirmed that RS 5MT has 10.5)
RS E9 turbo part number 1515A059 (approx cost 250,000 yen from Mitsi Japan). *Warning* There are reports of RS magnesium compressor wheel failing if boosted above stock boost.
More Evo 9 Turbo info:
... * New more efficient & larger Compressor preventing compressor surge
... * Better pump gas efficiency
... * Turbine Nozzle Area (cm2) = Large 10.5 Hotside (single flapper)
... * Improve actuator design
Side by side comparison E8 v E9 turbos (E9 is on the left and E8 on the right):
Twin scroll design
All Evo 4-8 Turbos are twin scroll designs meaning that the engines exhaust is divided into two channels (see first pic). As the engine exhausts in pulses.. its supposed to result in quicker spooling. From the Evo 4 onwards, the Turbo spins in the opposite direction, i.e. Anticlockwise (hence the R in the turbo name). The Titanium Alumnide alloy used in the RS/RS2 and some GSRS (factory option) has less inertia and thus spins up around 500 rpm sooner. These Titanium turbos can be indentified by the A in their name.
Primary source of data: http://www.nzevo.com/index.php?name=...iewtopic&p=188
Flow Rates @ 15psi:
TDO4-9B-6CM2 265 CFM
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM
TDO7S-25G-17CM2 850 CFM
TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM
Max Output:
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi
T25 (stock 2nd gen) 235-250hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.5 hybrid 265-280hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.8 hybrid 270-320hp @ ?? psi
Evolution 1
Turbo = TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Exhaust turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide
Evolution 2
Turbo = TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide
Evolution 3
Turbo = TD05H–16G6-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 4
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 5
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy), Titanium alloy (RS)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 6
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy), Titanium alloy (RS/RS2)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 6 : Tommi Makinen Edition
Turbo = TD05RA-15GK2-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Titanium alloy for both RS/RS2/GSR!
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm (gsr) - 68mm(rs) wide
Evolution 7
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy), RS/Rs2=Titanium alloy
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 7 GTA
Turbo = TD05-15GK2-9.0T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.0
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm wide
Evolution 8
Turbo = TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR / USDM)
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2 & NZDM) or 6MT:TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (model unknown)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = USDM EVO 8 & JDM GSR =Inconel (steel alloy),
RS=Titanium alloy.
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution MR aka "8.5"
GSR = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T or TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (Ti Alloy option)
RS = 6MT:TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T or 5MT:TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 or 9.8(RS-5speed)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Evolution 9
USDM & JDM = TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T
Turbine: GSR / GT = Inconel alloy, RS = Titanium alloy
Compressor: GSR / GT = Aluminium, RS = Magnesium Alloy
(??) mm wide (to be verified.)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 (note: to be confirmed that RS 5MT has 10.5)
RS E9 turbo part number 1515A059 (approx cost 250,000 yen from Mitsi Japan). *Warning* There are reports of RS magnesium compressor wheel failing if boosted above stock boost.
More Evo 9 Turbo info:
... * New more efficient & larger Compressor preventing compressor surge
... * Better pump gas efficiency
... * Turbine Nozzle Area (cm2) = Large 10.5 Hotside (single flapper)
... * Improve actuator design
Side by side comparison E8 v E9 turbos (E9 is on the left and E8 on the right):
Twin scroll design
All Evo 4-8 Turbos are twin scroll designs meaning that the engines exhaust is divided into two channels (see first pic). As the engine exhausts in pulses.. its supposed to result in quicker spooling. From the Evo 4 onwards, the Turbo spins in the opposite direction, i.e. Anticlockwise (hence the R in the turbo name). The Titanium Alumnide alloy used in the RS/RS2 and some GSRS (factory option) has less inertia and thus spins up around 500 rpm sooner. These Titanium turbos can be indentified by the A in their name.
Primary source of data: http://www.nzevo.com/index.php?name=...iewtopic&p=188
Last edited by boomtown; May 2, 2006 at 05:29 PM.
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Im looking for the code + part numbers for everything (including subcomponents like housings etc). If people post em up I will consolidate.
Also I looked briefly for the E9 turbo codes and didnt find em - go ahead and post em up too. Otherwise Im sure Ill stumble across them shortly.
Also I looked briefly for the E9 turbo codes and didnt find em - go ahead and post em up too. Otherwise Im sure Ill stumble across them shortly.
Last edited by boomtown; Apr 29, 2006 at 04:02 AM.
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Here yuh go...
Ammendment:-
Evolution 8 MR aka "8.5"
GSR....... = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T
or.......... = TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (Ti Alloy option)
RS..6MT: = TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T
or...5MT: = TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 or 9.8 (RS-5 speed)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Addendum:-
Evolution 9 Turbine (USDM & JDM) - TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T
GSR = Inconel alloy
GT.. = Magnesium alloy
RS.. = Titanium alloy
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Compressor.......... = Aluminium, (xx) mm wide (to be verified.)
More Evo 9 Turbo info:
... * New more efficient & larger Compressor preventing compressor surge
... * Better pump gas efficiency
... * Turbine Nozzle Area (cm2) = Large 10.5 Hotside (single flapper)
... * Improve actuator design
New Evo 9 turbo (left)... and Evo 8 (right)
That should help...
Ammendment:-
Evolution 8 MR aka "8.5"
GSR....... = TD05HR-16G6-10.5T
or.......... = TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (Ti Alloy option)
RS..6MT: = TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T
or...5MT: = TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 or 9.8 (RS-5 speed)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide
Addendum:-
Evolution 9 Turbine (USDM & JDM) - TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T
GSR = Inconel alloy
GT.. = Magnesium alloy
RS.. = Titanium alloy
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Compressor.......... = Aluminium, (xx) mm wide (to be verified.)
More Evo 9 Turbo info:
... * New more efficient & larger Compressor preventing compressor surge
... * Better pump gas efficiency
... * Turbine Nozzle Area (cm2) = Large 10.5 Hotside (single flapper)
... * Improve actuator design
New Evo 9 turbo (left)... and Evo 8 (right)
That should help...
Last edited by nix; May 2, 2006 at 01:02 PM.
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Originally Posted by boomtown
Thanks - updated. I didnt update the MR stuff though because I dont see the amendment?
e.g. Different "hot-sides" for different gear-box options, etc.
It's a personal opinion to avoid further misunderstandings that's all.
For more info maybe you could also add our local Forum as the other primary source of data... The Mitsubishi MadMen Forum at www.Zorce.com here -
http://www.zorce.com/zforums/viewfor...34f067847f65fd
If you're a "gear-head" you should find it interesting...
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You have some screwed up info my friend. The EVO 1-3's are wrong. EVO 1-2's were big 16g's which flow 525 CFM (some EI GSR's are rumored to have had small 16g's which flow 505 CFM). EVO 3's had an EIII 16g which flows 550 CFM. (all at 15psi) Also, you have NO info ony any of the turbo's from the EVO 4 on other than their size and codes. who has the damn flow numbers and compressor maps for the twin scroll turbo's? id like to know.
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Why is it every thread about turbos here ends up with someone pointing out all the real info and how it is screwed up. and noone replys. this guy above is 100% correct. you have mixed up info. and incomplete info. and HOW THE HELL DO YOU GUYS "KNOW" THE 9 TURBO IS SO MUCH BETTER? i want to see some info on this rather than the classic EVOM.net "i think its better cause everyone says it is so i will say it is too". *******
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Question:
How do they actually get these results?
Are they actually placing some sort of gauge on the outlet of the turbo and then getting 15psi?
Are these lab results or just data from various people?
Hopefully this isn't too offtopic but Id like to know for reference!
How do they actually get these results?
Are they actually placing some sort of gauge on the outlet of the turbo and then getting 15psi?
Are these lab results or just data from various people?
Hopefully this isn't too offtopic but Id like to know for reference!
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Originally Posted by FastEvoFL
Question:
How do they actually get these results?
Are they actually placing some sort of gauge on the outlet of the turbo and then getting 15psi?
Are these lab results or just data from various people?
Hopefully this isn't too offtopic but Id like to know for reference!
How do they actually get these results?
Are they actually placing some sort of gauge on the outlet of the turbo and then getting 15psi?
Are these lab results or just data from various people?
Hopefully this isn't too offtopic but Id like to know for reference!
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Originally Posted by thedarkside
who has the damn flow numbers and compressor maps for the twin scroll turbo's? id like to know.
Last edited by SaabTuner; Aug 9, 2006 at 09:15 PM.