Results! 16G/HKS 280's vs. Buschur 20G-9/Revolvers
Aug 31, 2006, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The 50 trim has yet to be topped? Hmmm........I'd have to argue with that one.
Anyway, Jarrod, very glad you are happy with the tune/power etc. Sorry I missed you when I left. I was honestly 4 hours late leaving the shop, I didn't say anything to you but was suppose to be gone by 12:30. I got a call from home that was, uh, well a call from home reminding me it was 4:30. My wife actually quite college that night.
Anyway, enough of the drama
I spoke with Trent yesterday about the outcome of your test drive in his car. Please shoot me a PM and let me know if you need us to build the dual BOV set up for you.
Something else, since this thread went towards cams and degreeing them and such. I had a guy here yesterday with a car that is basically BR Stage 4+AEM+GT35R etc. Someone else did the engine and head.....that's another story. Anyway, the car was making crap for power, it was very frustrating. I was trying to find what the problem was but couldn't come up with anything. I started to think about Curt's car and got out and looked to see if this particular car had cam gears or not. Sure enough it did. Sure enough they were degreed. I told the owner let's try setting the cams back to straight up like I think they should be. The cams were HKS 280's. The intake came was 2 degrees off, as soon as I changed it the knock count in the engine dropped and the car gained 14 whp. Then I moved the exhaust cam which was off 1 degree, car gained another 10 whp. Ended up gaining 27 whp from putting the cams back to 0.
Anyway, Jarrod, very glad you are happy with the tune/power etc. Sorry I missed you when I left. I was honestly 4 hours late leaving the shop, I didn't say anything to you but was suppose to be gone by 12:30. I got a call from home that was, uh, well a call from home reminding me it was 4:30. My wife actually quite college that night.
Anyway, enough of the drama
I spoke with Trent yesterday about the outcome of your test drive in his car. Please shoot me a PM and let me know if you need us to build the dual BOV set up for you. Something else, since this thread went towards cams and degreeing them and such. I had a guy here yesterday with a car that is basically BR Stage 4+AEM+GT35R etc. Someone else did the engine and head.....that's another story. Anyway, the car was making crap for power, it was very frustrating. I was trying to find what the problem was but couldn't come up with anything. I started to think about Curt's car and got out and looked to see if this particular car had cam gears or not. Sure enough it did. Sure enough they were degreed. I told the owner let's try setting the cams back to straight up like I think they should be. The cams were HKS 280's. The intake came was 2 degrees off, as soon as I changed it the knock count in the engine dropped and the car gained 14 whp. Then I moved the exhaust cam which was off 1 degree, car gained another 10 whp. Ended up gaining 27 whp from putting the cams back to 0.
Aug 31, 2006, 07:08 AM
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Getting more mph (more average hp in rpm ranges typical of drag racing) for the dragstrip with a set of cam gears is relatively straightforward. Scott at TTP Engineering has been doing quite a lot of work with this, and has been very successful in getting impressive trap speeds from it.
Aug 31, 2006, 08:01 AM
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ok guys calm down. in all fairness mr buschur we all know the 20g in reference isn't the one being sold right now. its the test one. very awesome traps though. 
Aug 31, 2006, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
Many MANY turbos are intoduced every year, the 50 Trim has YET to be toped. Maybe the 3076R but even then I believe the 50 Trim is ultimate.
Aug 31, 2006, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Ted, you and I will probably argue on this, so I am not going to bother.
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Hmmm, our black car has run 164.5 mph, cam gears=stock. My RS ran 128 on the "20g", cam gears=stock. I'd say those are pretty impressive trap speeds.
Aug 31, 2006, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBubbler
so wpuld the revolver cams make a big diffrence of 272's on a larger turbo set up like a gt35r? if so what kinda gains?
Aug 31, 2006, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
My RS ran 128 on the "20g", cam gears=stock. I'd say those are pretty impressive trap speeds.
What is the deal with Revolver. Are their units available at this time or still backordered?
Sep 1, 2006, 06:19 AM
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Revolvers are still back ordered. Been months and months. Actually starting testing of some more cam sets shortly, I can't wait any longer.
Aggressive cams.....I'd say the Revolvers are aggressive and the 280's are entering the aggressive side. Both of which I have seen excellent gains, with no loss in power anywhere in the curve on cars with stock turbos, limited RPM to 7500 and stock heads/blocks.
The only down side to running a large aggressive cam is getting it to idle and run right at idle.
Aggressive cams.....I'd say the Revolvers are aggressive and the 280's are entering the aggressive side. Both of which I have seen excellent gains, with no loss in power anywhere in the curve on cars with stock turbos, limited RPM to 7500 and stock heads/blocks.
The only down side to running a large aggressive cam is getting it to idle and run right at idle.
Sep 2, 2006, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Revolvers are still back ordered. Been months and months. Actually starting testing of some more cam sets shortly, I can't wait any longer.
Aggressive cams.....I'd say the Revolvers are aggressive and the 280's are entering the aggressive side. Both of which I have seen excellent gains, with no loss in power anywhere in the curve on cars with stock turbos, limited RPM to 7500 and stock heads/blocks.
The only down side to running a large aggressive cam is getting it to idle and run right at idle.
Aggressive cams.....I'd say the Revolvers are aggressive and the 280's are entering the aggressive side. Both of which I have seen excellent gains, with no loss in power anywhere in the curve on cars with stock turbos, limited RPM to 7500 and stock heads/blocks.
The only down side to running a large aggressive cam is getting it to idle and run right at idle.
Thanks