Badass Evo

hey guys,

i have a 03 evo VIII and from what im reading the car runs on 19psi stock right from the showroom floor. im also reading that you can bump it up to 22psi but i dont understand this. its your running 19psi on when you buy the car why bother bumping it up to 22psi thats only 3psi over stock. is it really worth going and spending the money on bumping the boost for 3psi that might see 20hp total.
im plaining on trying to see low 11`s in this evo from what it sounds like you can only boost it 3psi over stock well thats not going to get me in the 11`s before i start dumping all the money on bumping boost " 3psi " and all the bolt ons and only seeing a 12. well i should just save me money and get a diffrent turbo like gt35r for 1500.00 and then work from there. anyone else can shine some light on this thread that will be great, cause maybe im misunderstanding what im reading.

willum14pb

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Some things... bumping it to 22 psi isn't really recommended if everything is stock. When you have more mods on your car, bumping up those lbs actually will affect you much more than you may think. If you want to hit 11's you will need to make sure you go through the right steps and build your car accordingly. About your idea of dropping a gt35r with your stock engine.. I will almost demand you to make sure you get the supporting mods at the same time as you get it or you may have some serious problems. It's a pretty powerful turbo and can run some pretty amazingly high boost, levels where the engine currently will have no capability of holding, and give you a pretty big "uh oh." But once again just build it up regularly, it'll give you time to learn the car as you go along, and I'm sure you'll be surprised on how good it feels once you start adding just a few mods to the car .

Noogles

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1500 will buy you te turbo what about everythign else you'll need?

manifold, dp, intake, wastegate, dump tube, bov, clutch, studs, fuel system, cams, intercooler, and pipeing, mbc....etc?

a solid (consistant) 11 sec car will cost just a bit over 4000 dollars if you can drive

a 35r kit will run you anywhere between 3500 qnd 4600

you have alot of reading to do, specially if you think a $50 mbc isn't worth the performance

Badass Evo

i kinda get what your all saying but before i got this evo i have a 97cobra moded like know tommrrow. i know how to handle the power thats no the problem here and for the driven i think im a good driver to see the right numbers. i just dont want to dump alot of money on the car and see that later on im kicking my self in the *** saying i new i should have goten the 35r upgrade. thats my only worries here... im sure with a few bolt ons ill see a diffrence im sure of it but im just thinking if i spend 2000+labor in bolt ons or 4000 in a upgraded turbo kit i would think that the turbo kit is the way to go. later on its going to coast me dubble the money cause by then ill have 4000 in bolt on then i have to spend another 4000 for the turbo total of 8000.00. i dont know if im looking at this right. but from what i seen with a stang i just know if i had to do it over i would do it diffrently.

thanks,
Badass

Anthony.L

Look at this way, with the 35r kit you will want a MBC anyways so it's not a waste of money. Buy it now, install it with the stock turbo and then carry it over to the bigger turbo later.

Addicted4Life

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Stock turbo can run elevens. I don't understand everyone's obsession with buying huge turbo kits. Try working with the turbo you have. It will not cost you $4k to see elevens. Just a couple weeks ago someone I know ran this:

60' 1.632
330' 4.464
1/8 7.606
MPH 88.18
1000 9.990
1/4 11.990
MPH 112.35

With this:
mods: exhaust, mbc, boost gauge, flash, 100 octane, 25 psi

Anthony.L

There is also some local EVO 9's in WA running high 11's with the same mods, several have backed it up with 11.9 slips. Yes it is possible on the stock turbo.

Jimithing60089

You cant just spend 4k on a turbo kit especially if you want to put a gt35r, maybe a 50 trim for 4k but you still need to get intake/fmic new ic piping is highly recommended, if you are doing a gt35r which should atleast cost you $4300-4500 for a good one I suggest AMS, then you should seriously think about getting the 2.3L stroker kit to go with it. Before you even think about doing any of those things you should seriously start out getting full TBE exhaust / intake / MBC, if you are going to upgrade to a turbo be prepared to spend alot more than just $4k or even $5k look at spending about $8-10k because if you are going to do it then do it right, you should upgrade your camshafts and cam gears before upgrading the turbo aswell, and a good custom tune for all that should cost around $400-500, so this gives you alot to think about, if you just want to get 11's or just get some more power out of your ride get the full TBE / intake / MBC and a tune and you are going to love the feel of the car, then see what you want to do from there.

Ang Wen Yan

Stock block can handle 500whp safely(Not the not reliabe limit).You need all the supporting mod before turbo.You only need BPU + Cam to run 11's.MBC is a good thing to do,it is worth.Get a BR Pure Power package and race gas=11's car.EVO 9 only need BPU to run 11's.With race gas and BPU on EVO 9,you can run 11.5 if you can shift fast and cut Low 1.6~High 1.5 60'

kjewer1

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Ang Wen Yan, I think your space bar is ****ed up, it doesn't seem to work after punctuation.

I would do the MBC. It gets rid of some of the boost taper and makes the car feel like it ****s the bed less over 6k rpm. In the end my quarter mile times did not improve noticeably for whatever reasons. For a quick rundown of what I saw with my upgrade path: With filter and exhaust I was stuck at low 13s at 103. Adding DSMlink put me at 12.8 at 108 on pump gas. Cams put me at 12.5 at 111 despite not increasing total airflow (maxed). With some race gas the car went 12.1 at 113+. A clutch got me to 12.0, just to **** me off, and this is where I remain stuck at to this day.

Greg K

iTrader: (2)

IX's can run 11's on minimal mods. Not an 03 with the smaller hotside housing and without MIVEC.

Noogles

iTrader: (-1)

I said consitant 11's sorry but 11.990 in perfect conditions is a 12.1-12.3 on a normal day. Can it be done, yes, is it repeatable maybe

this is how i see it.

Studs 100
Fuel Pump 100
injectors 300
MBC 50
Cams 600
Clutch 500 (stock flywheel)
Clutch 800 (lightened Flywheel)
TB 600 (ebay)
LICP 100 (ebay)
JDM DV 100
Tune 300
HF Drop in 60
10.5 250
2430 (if you do your own labor)**
~3450 (if labor done at a shop) and some of the prices are a bit low**
**this does not include the front diff's/tranny you will break trying to learn to launch your car

Thats good for a solid 11.6-11.8 with a killer launch (1.6 average 60')

If you don't believe me add stages 1-4 from Buschur or AMS and that's what it will take

And Even then with a horrible launch your still looking at an 12 second run.
Plain and simple the stock turbo lacks the area under the curve to allow for mistakes.

For a 35r you will need all the above plus a full turbo kit ($3000-$4600)

Easiest plus cheapest way to hit an 11 is Turbo back, Clutch, MBC tune + Nitrous)
11's all day long no problem

hokiruu

iTrader: (19)

Badass Evo, look at it this way:
to add 3 psi on the stock turbo you will need mods A,B and C
to run a GT35R you will need mods A, B, C, and D, maybe E, or even F.
If you get the right A, B, and C, it's not a waste. that's one of the reasons every Evo supplier offers stages of upgrades.you don't really see them doing a "atage 1 delete, replace with stage 2 package" do you?

just go for it.

sparky

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BadAss: You should further define what you want to do with your car and how much you'll be wishing to spend. Do you want a car that's capable of high elevens on pump gas and very streetable. Or do you want something that is capable of low elevens on race gas? Would you be willing to live with a lot of lag and less than stellar pump gas performance?

Along with a $4300 35R kit you'll need injectors, probably a standalone, Revolver cams, maybe a different radiator, a $2000+ clutch, studs, and once you're done, a constant diet of race gas. On other threads they've arrived at about a $15,000 budget to do it right.....at least, once you factor in the labor cost.

I don't think you'll be that much quicker than a fully modded BR Stage IV, stock(IX housing +10.5) turboed car, given 93 octane pump gas and the same cams....but it's your money. Granted, on race gas it would be different. But, that's another tale.