bsautoperform

I'm all about bang for the buck. Smokin, very interested to see what kind of numbers you put down with the 3076. Over 400 whp for $2500 seems like a hell of a deal to me. Now we get to see if this set up delivers.

Guys, smokinJoe has offered to test and compare this turbo setup to stock and share his info. Get off his back and let him test it out. Let the numbers talk here vs speculating.....

Any time we can get concrete tangible results on a setup, everyone on the forum benefits and can make a more informed decision on future mod purchases

althemean

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Well it sounds like you are trying to compare them from this statement.

Look. We are just trying to tell you what others have said and HELP you. Not bash you. Calm down. Proceed with your experiment. Post it. I hope you hav great results. Your car makes such great power now...it would suck to throw on a turbo that was less than stellar for lets say 20 more HP on the topend with 100ft/lbs less torque (just throwing a number out there)

I wish you good luck Prove us wrong.

althemean

iTrader: (5)

What you fail to understand because you didnt search for hours on the subject is that this HAS BEEN done already and proven to make substantially less spool and power compared to a true Garrett hotside.

Smokin has taken the time to match port the flange. That will be the biggest result of HIS test.

spdracerut

iTrader: (2)

Actually, it makes pretty good sense. It's trying to take advantage of pulse tuning; if you look at one of the Nissan manifolds (and probably the Evos too), the runners from cylinders 1-4 are paired, and 2-3 are paired up. Cyl. 1 is opposite of 4, 2 opposite of 3 in the firing cycle. So it helps with exhaust scavaging, blah blah blah.

Joe, I picked up an 05 EVO last week... the SE-R is sitting back in G'ville.

scorke

iTrader: (18)

Spdracerut, I never said using a divided manifold was a bad idea, I said using a divided manifold without using a divided housing makes zero sense. If your going to take the time to divide the manifold, you might aswell have a divided turbo housing which again would improve the low end of the turbo/engine a whole lot, while dumping it into a big open housing as opposed to a divided one will yield worse results.

Scorke

sparky

iTrader: (1)

This makes sense!

SmokinJoe

iTrader: (17)

It makes sense in regards to helping get the exh out of the engine as Speed mentioned. Period. These are the benefits of the divided manifold. Again - the divided scroll is simply taking advantage of this.

ATL -
Remember I said this is an unbiased review. We all came to the conclusion the other tests on this forum could have had other factors affecting spool and backpressure. We weren't 100% certain it was the housing. We knew it was contributing - but we didnt know how much. Maybe my porting will help - and maybe it wont.

We wont know until its strapped down.

SmokinJoe

iTrader: (17)

Absolutely! I couldnt have said it better. What if this turbo makes 400whp at 23psi?

scorke

iTrader: (18)

400whp at 23 psi is not out of the realm of possibility, it's your tq that will suffer mostly. Also, if this kit makes 400whp at 23psi 100x as many people would be running it, we all didnt spend an extra 1k+ for nothing.

Good Luck, I hope you prove all previous results wrong, I think between the orientation of the housing in relation to the turbine, the placement of the waste gate you will have a tough time hitting your marks, your TQ should be the biggest indicator of how far off the kit is performing.

Scorke

Az3ar

iTrader: (18)

SmokinJoe, don’t mind scorke he is Vishnu supporter and he will do anything and I mean anything to prove that vishnu products are the best (when in reality they suck).

Even if you would get BR, full race and other turbo kits he would still be posting to prove to you and others that Vishnu kit is the way to go.

FWIW Vishnu kit sits very low in the engine compartment and many turbo collars have failed (they opened like bean cans because they are cheap made and the material is very thin)

Scork, leave the guy do his testing as we are all thankful to Joe for his hard work and time. He is brining great help to these forums and you are brining nothing but Vishnu crap.

For god sake

Spec'd

iTrader: (16)

I'm disappointed, I thought the Vishnu kits were supossed to be good for
a stock exhaust manifold application.

Also they come as a complete kit with everything you need.

Az3ar

iTrader: (18)

Just do a quick search and you will see some serious flaws in the design.

EvoIXMR

iTrader: (66)

Az3ar - Did you sell your ATP kit off then, I assume? I read your whole thread and all those issues when I researching to buy one.

I wish someone made a bolt-on turbo for the Evo that is ball-bearing and doesnt suck - Wish Forced Performance or AGP turbo could step up to the plate!

MR. Birdie

The ATP Kit is soooooo cheap! i'm tempted in buying it!

scorke

iTrader: (18)

Wow Az3ar posting more false and misleading information? I am not a Vishnu supporter, I happen to run one of there turbokits, that is all, my car is a hodgepodge of literally 10+ manufacturer's parts, with all of them coming from one shop or another, I honestly don't think I have 2 parts in my engine bay from the same manufacturer, so you can go back to playing with your e30 "racer" and stop posting BS.

I actually am a Full-Race, AMS, and Buschur product supporter because all of those three companies produce products that have been tested, have put down good repeatable numbers, and have a good set of minds behind the design and fabrication of the parts. So again your full of poop, and making false statements, go back and look through other thread regarding these companies and there parts, I have always supported AMS and Buschur, and have always believed that Full-Race designs the best maniold period.

Regarding the Vishnu kits failing, I havent heard of this, maybe you could site to one of these multiple occasions of this happening? I run the stage 3 so I am not running the adaptor/collar, I have a tubular exhaust manifold.

Az3ar you of all people should be posting up the luck you had with your ATP kit, what numbers was Al able to make with that kit?


340/309 That really is something to scream about......

IIRC they were around the range of what a stock turbo car should make? What Vishnu crap am I bringing? Have I ever spoken of the merits of Vishnu in this thread or any other? If so were my claims unreasonable and without merit? You seriously need to think before you unload a whole plate of BS on the forums.

Scorke