Scorke is here, dude go get my 2.3 graphs, my 2.0 graphs you cannot seriously compare, I can get you pictures if you want proof?

Post up my graph 2.3 vs your c16, and tell doug to email me my tunes if your able to get all these dyno sheets

Scorke

 

The fundemental difference is your rediculous a/f ratios???? Care to explain?

Also I spiked 30 at the tq spike it tapered to 26 as you can see by my tq, isnt it clear that the difference between mine and yours is that it just makes its peak hp and tq far earlier, while yours is reached near the top end of the spectrum? Not to mention you hint like theres mores left in it, I don't think there is on your current setup, if so I believe you would of done it on C16.....

Scorke

 

Way to go Smokinjoe . Nice writeup... Amazing Info... Now i am not too afraid of putting my ATP 3071r on... Just waiting for the Power Fc to get here and then I'll be in the ATP club too

I have a DC sports Manifold think i'll get the turbo ported too...

 

Nope - you're waaaaay off base, Sam.

 

Ding! Ding! Yep - you guessed it!


Ok, you Evo 8 guys are going to hate this... so be warned.
We learned a lot about cam timing and using that to build cylinder pressure and improve turbo spool dramatically. We took what would have been a laggy turbo with a large turbine scroll and made it spool like a smaller turbo. This wasnt very hard b/c essentially the Mivec did all the work for us.


The blue curve is with the Mivec, the red curve is without. We changed nothing else between these dyno runs.
Below 6.5K - which is considered the low rpm area for Mivec - the manifold pressures just weren't there to spin up the big .82 housing. It's also surprising that with the Mivec off, the spool now matches Scroke's - or, really an Evo 8.

This is the benefit of Mivec - and the reason why you can run larger turbo's on IX's with better response.

 

Shiv's turbo - Huh? I thought it was a Garrett 3076R.

 

so this turbo is better for the ix's........but arent you making the same HP and 60 less wtq with this turbo (on the above graph) compared to your stock? Also at a much later spool up?

 

jbanez- This is me quoting my first post in this thread, I'm not arguing we are just talking, he put down some impressive numbers on a kit that has been pretty unproven and has showed that it can make good power, although still a little on the laggy side.

Smokin why do your last graphs cross at 6400 or so instead of the usual 5250? Thats making that graph appear to have much more tq than it would if it were on the same scale as hp?

Also smokinjoe, your spoolup with mivec off is no where close to mine, and your spooulup without mivec is nowhere close to mine.

Again, I've said it multiple times, my car had a 1/4 inch gap between the bottom of the exhaust ports and the exhaust manifold due to the manifold hitting the block while I was on my 2.0, the reason it was never fixed is because nobody picked up on it until my mitsu dealer was reassembling my motor. At 4500 rpms my car on 20 psi pump makes 310/360, which is still more than yours. (yes I have a 2.3 but you have mivec )


Scorke

 

the hp and tq are different along the vertical axis.

You 2 should probably quit your damn e-fights and both just enjoy your cars.

 

HP and TQ are not on the same scale.

 

That was done just to compare power output at the same boost level; just goes to show that Mitsu did a pretty good job sizing the stock turbo. You don't buy a bigger turbo to run the same boost level though..... hence, the higher boost level dynos where the stock turbo falls flat on its face and the bigger one keeps on pulling.

 

True. But the RPM read is off by about 1000rpm or more on some of the later graphs. Evidenced by the redline - in some cases its 8.5K or even 9K.

The first graph is right on the money - and a good indicator of spool. I dunno how this is considered laggy - being that its a wide open .82ar and a GT30, series 12 turbo. I think the power builds really nice and doesnt feel at all laggy.

Here is the first graph.

 

Those graphs are referenced to MPH, not RPM.

-Paul

 

I've not looked at the rest of the thread... and won't have time right now, however, YOU know the rules... clean it up!

-Zeus-

I did not say anything wrong. I know the rules and I followed them, please in light me.

 

Take your petty differences out of the open forums...

You both have been warned...

-Zeus-