AMS 2.3L + RnR GT30R results
Sep 29, 2006 | 05:23 PM
#46
^ Your wrong, when I am talking about other companies making big numbers I was talking about there customers cars, none of the things I referenced was regardin a shop car, however since you brought shop cars into the equation, explain why RNR has customers making more hp than their shop car?
Also you have no clue whether these cars were tuned to a peak tune or a reliably streetable tune........if it runs and doesnt blow up most people consider it streetable(I think there are more criteria than this however).
To say that any brand is as good as any other is false. There are some kits that are in everyway shape and form better than others, some perform better some perform worse, some fit better some fit worse, some are more reliable some are not...
Also I don't know how you can possibly make the statement that there manifold makes some of the best whp out there.....
Here is a link to a B16 making 630whp on a SC61- http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1620401 but because RNR's manfiolds are created by the hands of baby jesus, it must be something else holding you back.
Scorke
Also you have no clue whether these cars were tuned to a peak tune or a reliably streetable tune........if it runs and doesnt blow up most people consider it streetable(I think there are more criteria than this however).
To say that any brand is as good as any other is false. There are some kits that are in everyway shape and form better than others, some perform better some perform worse, some fit better some fit worse, some are more reliable some are not...
Also I don't know how you can possibly make the statement that there manifold makes some of the best whp out there.....
Here is a link to a B16 making 630whp on a SC61- http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1620401 but because RNR's manfiolds are created by the hands of baby jesus, it must be something else holding you back.
Scorke
Sep 29, 2006 | 05:29 PM
#47
Originally Posted by scorke
Creamo3
Link 1- That 35R put out 50 Trim like Pump HP and TQ numbers, the race gas whp was on the money but the tq was down again.
Link 2- YOU FOUND ONE!!!!!!!!!!
Link 3- 530whp out of a 37R is far from impressive, I believe AMS has put out over 700whp with this turbo, and I know 35R's make those numbers on a regular basis, that TQ number is also correct and that 37R made 413 ft lbs of tq...
Link 4- No Tq numbers but the pump gas number of 390whp is poor for a 35R, the race gas number of 540 isn't poor but it still is sort of underperforming compared to some other 35R's.
Link 5- Jeff made decent numbers, again not impressive or "good" for a 35R but considering his modification level I was impressed.
Link 6- Again nothing impressive, still on the low side for good mustang dyno numbers, I believe buschur has made well into the 500's with 35R's on his dyno.
Link 7- You use RNR's shop car as an example- OUCH!!!!!! haha Seriously, 609whp out of a 37R and a 2.4l...... I think AMS probably has 5-6 customers making that hp or more on less displacement and a smaller or equal sized turbo, not impressive.
Link 8- No dyno sheet, no mention of numbers, no anything, did I miss something?
Scorke
Link 1- That 35R put out 50 Trim like Pump HP and TQ numbers, the race gas whp was on the money but the tq was down again.
Link 2- YOU FOUND ONE!!!!!!!!!!
Link 3- 530whp out of a 37R is far from impressive, I believe AMS has put out over 700whp with this turbo, and I know 35R's make those numbers on a regular basis, that TQ number is also correct and that 37R made 413 ft lbs of tq...
Link 4- No Tq numbers but the pump gas number of 390whp is poor for a 35R, the race gas number of 540 isn't poor but it still is sort of underperforming compared to some other 35R's.
Link 5- Jeff made decent numbers, again not impressive or "good" for a 35R but considering his modification level I was impressed.
Link 6- Again nothing impressive, still on the low side for good mustang dyno numbers, I believe buschur has made well into the 500's with 35R's on his dyno.
Link 7- You use RNR's shop car as an example- OUCH!!!!!! haha Seriously, 609whp out of a 37R and a 2.4l...... I think AMS probably has 5-6 customers making that hp or more on less displacement and a smaller or equal sized turbo, not impressive.
Link 8- No dyno sheet, no mention of numbers, no anything, did I miss something?
Scorke
However, these turbos are only as good as the supporting mods and the tuner. The 35r setups can range from 450-650whp and the 37 can range from 450-700. So depending on the list of supporting mods the dyno umbers shown are actually right on. Not to mention your own link just proves them to be.
Sep 29, 2006 | 05:37 PM
#48
Originally Posted by scorke
^ Your wrong, when I am talking about other companies making big numbers I was talking about there customers cars, none of the things I referenced was regardin a shop car, however since you brought shop cars into the equation, explain why RNR has customers making more hp than their shop car?
Also you have no clue whether these cars were tuned to a peak tune or a reliably streetable tune........if it runs and doesnt blow up most people consider it streetable(I think there are more criteria than this however).
To say that any brand is as good as any other is false. There are some kits that are in everyway shape and form better than others, some perform better some perform worse, some fit better some fit worse, some are more reliable some are not...
Also I don't know how you can possibly make the statement that there manifold makes some of the best whp out there.....
Here is a link to a B16 making 630whp on a SC61- http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1620401 but because RNR's manfiolds are created by the hands of baby jesus, it must be something else holding you back.
Scorke
Also you have no clue whether these cars were tuned to a peak tune or a reliably streetable tune........if it runs and doesnt blow up most people consider it streetable(I think there are more criteria than this however).
To say that any brand is as good as any other is false. There are some kits that are in everyway shape and form better than others, some perform better some perform worse, some fit better some fit worse, some are more reliable some are not...
Also I don't know how you can possibly make the statement that there manifold makes some of the best whp out there.....
Here is a link to a B16 making 630whp on a SC61- http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1620401 but because RNR's manfiolds are created by the hands of baby jesus, it must be something else holding you back.
Scorke
Also yes like I said before most all kits are going to put out the same numbers. The only way you could know is if one identical car setup dynoed more than 50whp less than the other which has NEVER happened.
Also you bring up a car and setup that is totally different? Not to mention what does that have to do with this discussion? So what it made over 600whp there are plenty of cars on sc61 that make well over 600whp. I dont quite see your point.
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