Ebay FMIC's actually perform well?!
Nov 6, 2006, 09:52 AM
#107
Originally Posted by _EVOled_
+1 I want to see some evidence 
Nov 6, 2006, 10:02 AM
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Why would AMS or any vendor go out of their way for this product. If I were AMS I would be suing the XS Power and entities for copyright infringement. For them to even provide a back to back review seems silly.
What I get out of their post #104 is that:
1. The XS Power is somewhat better than the stock unit. Meaning they state they "lose 5-8whp" vs their core on a back to back test. Well considering their core is good for 10-20whp over a stock core this isn't too bad. So this indirectly states that the XS Power IC raises stock HP anywhere between 5-10whp over stock.
2. On a bigger turbo car you typically run more boost. Which in this case even stated right on the Ebay ad the XS Power IC has a 2-5psi drop at 35psi...ouch thats not good. So you would lose more power over stock.
What he does not say is in regards to fitment. I have seen an AMS IC and it never had the fitment problems I had getting this to work. It will work although the AMS IC was a true bolt on, not bend this bracket or move this IC coupler around...bolt on.
What I get out of their post #104 is that:
1. The XS Power is somewhat better than the stock unit. Meaning they state they "lose 5-8whp" vs their core on a back to back test. Well considering their core is good for 10-20whp over a stock core this isn't too bad. So this indirectly states that the XS Power IC raises stock HP anywhere between 5-10whp over stock.
2. On a bigger turbo car you typically run more boost. Which in this case even stated right on the Ebay ad the XS Power IC has a 2-5psi drop at 35psi...ouch thats not good. So you would lose more power over stock.
What he does not say is in regards to fitment. I have seen an AMS IC and it never had the fitment problems I had getting this to work. It will work although the AMS IC was a true bolt on, not bend this bracket or move this IC coupler around...bolt on.
Nov 6, 2006, 10:10 AM
#109
Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
I feel bad for you guys because someone obviously copied your design and is undercutting you big time. However I've compared my Ebay IC to your IC which a friend has on his IX and visually they are 100% IDENTICAL. From the bar and plate design to the end tanks, 100% identical.
Nov 6, 2006, 10:32 AM
#110
Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
However I've compared my Ebay IC to your IC which a friend has on his IX and visually they are 100% IDENTICAL. From the bar and plate design to the end tanks, 100% identical.
Nov 6, 2006, 10:44 AM
#112
Originally Posted by honda-guy
they might look similar but not identical. the ebay ic end tanks are cast, not welded sheet metal like the AMS, it's probably why the ebay ic weights so much. also, did you count the number of bars on the ebay ic vs. AMS.
Personally I prefer cast endtanks, much stronger IMO.
Nov 6, 2006, 11:05 AM
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not really when done right alum is just as good if not better
just like with blocks... not all alum blocks are bad for boost... just ones that aren't designed for high horsepower cars...
just like with blocks... not all alum blocks are bad for boost... just ones that aren't designed for high horsepower cars...
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Nov 6, 2006, 01:13 PM
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The truth seems to be that the XS Power is a good bang for the buck.
I wouldn't put one on my car however. For a few hundred dollars more
I got a great deal ( shipped ) on the Turbo XS from a vendor on here.
I wouldn't put one on my car however. For a few hundred dollars more
I got a great deal ( shipped ) on the Turbo XS from a vendor on here.
Nov 6, 2006, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
The outlets look different in photos I have seen and I know if the outlets on the AMS fit like this ebay fmic I have I would be pissed.
Nov 6, 2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by honda-guy
they might look similar but not identical. the ebay ic end tanks are cast, not welded sheet metal like the AMS, it's probably why the ebay ic weights so much. also, did you count the number of bars on the ebay ic vs. AMS.
I didn't sit there and count fins per in. or bars, the cores look exactly alike except one has AMS spraypainted on it.
Nov 6, 2006, 02:32 PM
#120
Originally Posted by Rcebowl
not really when done right alum is just as good if not better
just like with blocks... not all alum blocks are bad for boost... just ones that aren't designed for high horsepower cars...
just like with blocks... not all alum blocks are bad for boost... just ones that aren't designed for high horsepower cars...
I am talking cast aluminum vs sheetmetal aluminum, (both are aluminum).
Last edited by mitsuorder; Nov 6, 2006 at 08:28 PM. Reason: staying on course...