Full-Race ProStock Turbo Manifold
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Originally Posted by Speed Element
www.full-race.com Lifetime warranty on the manifold. Details are on their site.
Do not compare the Made in China Maxford headers w/ Full-Race. They dont' even come close.
Do not compare the Made in China Maxford headers w/ Full-Race. They dont' even come close.
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I'm definitely going to have to find this comparision by buschur
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Its no doubt as far as quality Full-Race has great quality just like some other manifold makers as well, but for me I would have to say cast does just fine, Good example, most people know Inline Pro and Matt Keller, well he was running an off the shelf ported cast Inline Pro manfold looks similar to a Evo or DSM manifold and beating everyone in his class running 9's Now that is enough evidence for me to know that although a Full Race manifold is nice, it is not needed. I understand now why buschur ports stock manifolds and also uses a stock looking setup for his turbo kit.
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Originally Posted by Spent198
Well, I expected some negative comments but thanks for your feedback guys. As of now, my modifications are listed in my signature. I am planning on laying down the groundwork before I go ahead and get the Forge MBC and EcuTek Full Tune. (Turbo Manifold, WORKS ABM, Works 70mm DP, etc.) Do it right, or do it twice. I don't mind spending the money on this manifold because I will never have to worry about cracking like others do with cheaper manifolds. So you are aware, I didn't pay $1000 dollars. Retail isn't even that high...
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Originally Posted by TheLab
please dont think I am flaming your purchase or downing Full Race, the guys make beautiful stuff. But you have to admit, for the price their products demand is it just me or is it ridiculous that you get ugly flame cut flanges? It wouldn't cost but maybe another $20 total for each piece to use some laser cut flanges with nice threaded bolt holes and such. I know for a fact that even Tial offers very reasonable laser cut flanges, their turbine inlet flanges and wastegate flanges are offered with threaded holes. This way you dont have to use a bolt and a nut. You can use a stud and a nut, which is superior by far.
Again, Im not wanting to start anything. Im sure the FR nut swingers have already skipped reading my entire post and have already started a reply, but w/e. This is a discussion forum and I'm simply making discussion.![Smilie](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Again, Im not wanting to start anything. Im sure the FR nut swingers have already skipped reading my entire post and have already started a reply, but w/e. This is a discussion forum and I'm simply making discussion.
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Originally Posted by eling99
Sorry OT. i have one for sale!!
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=232022
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Your manifold seems to be a different design? look at Number 1 runner.
Wonder if its for performance or spool?
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wow, those welds are immaculate!!! that IS a piece of art.
p.s. looks purty raw
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p.s. looks purty raw
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Originally Posted by TogueMonster
No offense or anything, but OEM strut tower bars are not modifications if they are original equipment. I also would not call window tint a mod. But whatever. The manifold looks very fking sweet! ![Thumbs Up](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/images/smilies/smilie_thumbsup.gif)
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Otherwise, thankyou for the comments guys!
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Originally Posted by Spent198
You have to pay a high price for the best product on the market. I obviously disagree with your statement, but to each his own. Geoff from Full-Race has actually recommended Swain-Tech White Lightning coating over all other coatings (including HPC) and I highly doubt it would void the warranty. I will be sure to post my Dyno Graphs once I have the car tuned so everyone can see how much of a "waste of money" this piece really is.
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WOW does it sound like you have brain washed....... I still wonder why people havent searched these forums and UNDERSTOOD... that .... a .....Ported and polished STOCK Exhuast manifold Flows the same if not more then those $1000 BIG Horsepower Items. WOW 15WHp........
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Is there any proof that the ported manifold makes HP over stock? There are tests conducted by Bushur that show 20HP gain, but that is with manifold, o2 and 10.5 hotside. I have never seen ANY tests isolating the ported manifold making more HP and would love to see some.
Yes, the full race manifold is expensive, but for those that are gonna push the stock turbo to its limits, it will gain power. not the best bang for the buck, but after you do basic bolt-ons and cams, you only have few options left to make additional HP...
IF I didn't have to pay international shipping and custom taxes, I would have bought the Full Race header by now...
Yes, the full race manifold is expensive, but for those that are gonna push the stock turbo to its limits, it will gain power. not the best bang for the buck, but after you do basic bolt-ons and cams, you only have few options left to make additional HP...
IF I didn't have to pay international shipping and custom taxes, I would have bought the Full Race header by now...
Originally Posted by Spooldyou
WOW does it sound like you have brain washed....... I still wonder why people havent searched these forums and UNDERSTOOD... that .... a .....Ported and polished STOCK Exhuast manifold Flows the same if not more then those $1000 BIG Horsepower Items. WOW 15WHp........
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Originally Posted by Bosshog
Is there any proof that the ported manifold makes HP over stock? There are tests conducted by Bushur that show 20HP gain, but that is with manifold, o2 and 10.5 hotside...
Even the lowly SS autochrome manifold provides a nice boost in midrange torque with proper tuning. The Full-Race piece definitely isn't haphazardly designed, and seems intended for those who are on a program to get every last bit from the stock (or stock-sized) turbos. Obviously, it may not be a viable option for everyone, but it isn't intended to be.
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Originally Posted by Spooldyou
WOW does it sound like you have brain washed....... I still wonder why people havent searched these forums and UNDERSTOOD... that .... a .....Ported and polished STOCK Exhuast manifold Flows the same if not more then those $1000 BIG Horsepower Items. WOW 15WHp........
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And a little postscript, I did plenty of research.
EDIT: I am still amazed to find that plenty of members of this board do not appreciate higher end products...
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Originally Posted by Ted B
That's probably because anyone who contemplates upgrading the exhaust manifold would be wise to relieve those remaining bottlenecks in the system (hotside and O2).
Even the lowly SS autochrome manifold provides a nice boost in midrange torque with proper tuning. The Full-Race piece definitely isn't haphazardly designed, and seems intended for those who are on a program to get every last bit from the stock (or stock-sized) turbos. Obviously, it may not be a viable option for everyone, but it isn't intended to be.
Even the lowly SS autochrome manifold provides a nice boost in midrange torque with proper tuning. The Full-Race piece definitely isn't haphazardly designed, and seems intended for those who are on a program to get every last bit from the stock (or stock-sized) turbos. Obviously, it may not be a viable option for everyone, but it isn't intended to be.
-Carl