Buschur Racing's new 20gLT, EVO Green turbos ready to be ordered.....
Nov 9, 2006, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dadriva
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Nov 9, 2006, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 34Turbo
You'll definitely improve your times with practice but just to give you an idea, guys in our region are running 11.6-11.8 @ 118mph with the stock turbo and alky. What concerns me with your 50 trim is your trap speed not your ET. 116 is pretty low for that setup. It will get better though, I assume...
on that run I was shifting at 7000 instead of winding each gear out to 7800
Nov 9, 2006, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I do understand wanting numbers on a more normally-modded Evo, but I really don't understand why people want pump gas numbers. Why are you going to upgrade the turbo only to run pump gas and not tap into half the turbo's potential? That's very strange to me...
For once Warr, I Agree...... Well Done Sir.....Well Done
Nov 9, 2006, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Going 10's would not be a problem on the stock head and stock shortblock with this turbo. What is going to be a problem is getting the rest of the combination right and getting someone who can actually drive well enough to pull it off. .
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Nov 9, 2006, 07:33 AM
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I personally would rather see the maximum potential of a given turbo. I don't ever install a turbo that I don't intend to max out, and I want to know what to expect. I also enjoy the challenge of trying to duplicate what the "fast guys" have done. What a turbo does not maxed out is irrelevant, IMO. Take a selection of turbos that are in the same ballpark that will be not maxed out on a given setup and run them all at the same boost on pump gas and you'll get within a few hp of each other. If you are unable to max out the stock turbo on pump gas due to some limiting factor (ultimately knock, usually), the limiting factor is likely to still be there on the new turbo. 
This is why it doesn't make sense to upgrade from the stock turbo until you have maxed it out. IF the turbo is the limiting factor, THEN it makes sense to upgrade it. Despite the fact that I've run over a dozen different turbos of all sizes on all kinds of setups, I don't expect anyone will listen to what I just said. Fortunately, I don't mind talking to myself. Knock yourselves out, just don't expect Dave to do it on his dime.
This is why it doesn't make sense to upgrade from the stock turbo until you have maxed it out. IF the turbo is the limiting factor, THEN it makes sense to upgrade it. Despite the fact that I've run over a dozen different turbos of all sizes on all kinds of setups, I don't expect anyone will listen to what I just said. Fortunately, I don't mind talking to myself. Knock yourselves out, just don't expect Dave to do it on his dime.
Nov 9, 2006, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kjewer1
This is why it doesn't make sense to upgrade from the stock turbo until you have maxed it out. IF the turbo is the limiting factor, THEN it makes sense to upgrade it. Despite the fact that I've run over a dozen different turbos of all sizes on all kinds of setups, I don't expect anyone will listen to what I just said. Fortunately, I don't mind talking to myself. Knock yourselves out, just don't expect Dave to do it on his dime.
Knock yourselves out, just don't expect Dave to do it on his dime.Well said Kevin, it's nice to see other educated DSMers over here
Nov 9, 2006, 07:47 AM
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FYI, we showed 44 lbs/min on the White Rabbit converted to Evo 9 specs. This was similiar to the 20G-9-5 but without the clipped turbine wheel. Although we had the TME Ti/Al shaft in ours. This was on an Evo 9 MR with 3" TBE, Stock FMIC and piping, stock airbox, and 264 exhaust cam and Forge RS bov and a ECU flash. This was with the boost turned all the way up with a forge UNOS. It would make no more boost, so this was the ultimate air flow on that setup. We read the MAF lbs/min with a pocketlogger. This new one should be able to make about 5 lbs/min more, good bump.
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Nov 9, 2006, 10:00 AM
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I think this turbo is looking very promising for a DD car that has all the bolt ons.
meth, cams, IC pipes, intercooler, intake, catless TBE, MBC, fuel pump, ported stock mani and O2 then with a custom tune on the stock ECU. I bet with this setup you could get the car to almost drive like its 100% stock with a good tuner.
meth, cams, IC pipes, intercooler, intake, catless TBE, MBC, fuel pump, ported stock mani and O2 then with a custom tune on the stock ECU. I bet with this setup you could get the car to almost drive like its 100% stock with a good tuner.
Nov 9, 2006, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kjewer1
I personally would rather see the maximum potential of a given turbo. I don't ever install a turbo that I don't intend to max out, and I want to know what to expect. I also enjoy the challenge of trying to duplicate what the "fast guys" have done. What a turbo does not maxed out is irrelevant, IMO. Take a selection of turbos that are in the same ballpark that will be not maxed out on a given setup and run them all at the same boost on pump gas and you'll get within a few hp of each other. If you are unable to max out the stock turbo on pump gas due to some limiting factor (ultimately knock, usually), the limiting factor is likely to still be there on the new turbo. This is why it doesn't make sense to upgrade from the stock turbo until you have maxed it out. IF the turbo is the limiting factor, THEN it makes sense to upgrade it. Despite the fact that I've run over a dozen different turbos of all sizes on all kinds of setups, I don't expect anyone will listen to what I just said. Fortunately, I don't mind talking to myself. Knock yourselves out, just don't expect Dave to do it on his dime.
This is why it doesn't make sense to upgrade from the stock turbo until you have maxed it out. IF the turbo is the limiting factor, THEN it makes sense to upgrade it. Despite the fact that I've run over a dozen different turbos of all sizes on all kinds of setups, I don't expect anyone will listen to what I just said. Fortunately, I don't mind talking to myself. Knock yourselves out, just don't expect Dave to do it on his dime.Amen, brother.
