Because 90+% of the cars on the street are DDs and people dont want to have to run alcohol on their DD all the time. It is expensive and impractical for a DD in my opinion. Now if you primarily race your car then alky is a very practical and cheap alternative to race gas. But I think everyone here is looking for "real world" performance gains.

 

I guess that would be me?!?

 

Who's run around on race gas all the time. Alot of people including myself would like to see pump gas numbers because thats what we mostly use everyday. Makes sense.

 

Ignore my above post. After reading the WHOLE thread like I shouldve I see Zeus already basically covered what I was getting at. My bad...

 

I was going completely on my personal goals for my EVO, i wasnt saying that the new 20g was a replacement for the 3065. In my case it is, but not overall.

 

I understand what you were saying Zeus, we are in agreement.

If you own an EVO 9 already the stock lower i/c pipes work. If you don't own an EVO9 then we have a lower i/c pipe kit for the car. The deluxe FMIC, it will depend on which version it is. If it is the earliest version that was one solid lower i/c pipe coming out of the turbo and then bending we will have to do something custom.

 

I'm assuming the same pipe will fit your Race Fmic?

 

It seems as though many of you are confused. We ALL post and talk about PEAK numbers and what a turbo will make on this gas and that gas. Bottom line is if all you want is a big number then go with the GT37R on your car. I've made 525 whp on straight pump gas with that turbo. The catch is the low and mid range are non-existent. The stock turbo will kick its *** up to 5,000 rpm.

It is all compromise, what I don't think you want to do with a daily driver is trade your low and mid range for a turbo that only makes large peak numbers and sounds good to brag about. The car isn't nearly as fun to drive. The torque number suck.

With this turbo on race gas we were able to get the same HP as we did Torque, GREAT turbo. The results are going to be close to the same on straight pump gas, I feel this turbo is going to be good for 370/370 on pump gas on a well set up car, on our dyno.

Last, alcohol is NOT expensive to run on a daily basis. It is probably one of the cheapest mods you can make to your EVO for more power after Stages 1-3 from us. The kits are $499 for the underhood and $599 for cars with ACD that mount in the trunk. Alcohol is about $3 per gallon, if you buy denatured it is $10 gallon at a hardware store. The gallon should last you a very long time. If you beat the crap out of the car and are over 16 psi of boost a lot it will last less time. Under normal driving absolutely NO alcohol is used. I don't even set them up to come on under 16 psi of boost, as long as you don't go over 16 psi it doesn't spray. When you do go over it only sprays while it is over that boost level. It takes a long time to use a gallon of alky, even on the dyno. HUGE performance for you money from these kits we sell. Not running alky on a car you are spending your hard earned money on to get more power is almost silly. Boost is power, boost is BIG torque, boost is fun, boost is easy to run and safe with a good alky kit.

With that said, I personally do not run alky. I do however drive my car on C16 on a daily basis. It is expensive but the power is unreal. If I take a trip I put 94 octane in it and turn the boost down with a mild tune, not as fun but for me, 90% of the time I am on race gas anyway.

My car is set on kill all the time. I find that the day that it isn't I end up running into some fool that wants to race me and I might loose on pump gas

 

Sounds like a really nice turbo for alot of us out there.

Nice job David!

 

Going to give you a call right now!

 

You make me laugh How often are you going to run into an 8 sec car on the street that is street legal lol unless you are talking about your daily driver evo which im sure is still faster than 95% of the street legal cars around your town...

I cant wait to see what this turbo can do, such a nice alternative for people who just wasted money on the exhaust manifold and 02 housing...

is C16 close to 104 octane or is it higher?

 

C16 is 116 oct....

Terry S

 

Its actually higher. The motor octane is rated at 117. To get the octane we speak of its R+M/2. R=research and M=motor. The research octane is usually a few points higher than motor so do the math...should be around 118-119 effective octane.

 

The 02 housing is a great modification. Great power for very cheap.

 

If you just got a stock coated manifold or a directl replacement header it goes right onto this turbo, same thing with the 02 housings, so you have wasted no money at all.

We don't drive our 8 second EVO on the street. I do drive me 9 second EVO everyday though and that is the one set on kill. Yes, it is probably faster than 90% of other cars even when it is on pump gas BUT I like a win to be very clear! haha