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Do you think Mitsubishi should place a recall on their transfer cases?
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Do you think Mitsubishi should place a recall on their transfer cases?
Since I have an 03 VIII and my warranty is out, my transfer case just started whining on me tonight. This means that I will have to either send it out to shep or TRE to have reshimed with new parts or buy a new tcase all together.
I'm just wondering how many peoples transfer cases have gone out on them prematurely since I have only 8057 miles on my car and it has been babied its entire running life.
If we get enough people together on this, we should be able to force mitsubishi to activate a recall since they have had such a bad past with legalities surrounding their tcase designs.
You may or may not know that Mitsubishi has faced class action suits for their earlier generation talon/eclipse/laser series models. Their are incidents where people have died since the tcase locked up on them due to a faulty rear seal causing the tcase to lose fluid leading to the eventual failure and seizure of the part. Goin 60mph and having all four wheels lock is a scary scary thought.
I think that it is a serious and neglegent act for Mitsubishi to overlook this design flaw and not instate a recall. Mitsu you get two thumbs down.
I'm just wondering how many peoples transfer cases have gone out on them prematurely since I have only 8057 miles on my car and it has been babied its entire running life.
If we get enough people together on this, we should be able to force mitsubishi to activate a recall since they have had such a bad past with legalities surrounding their tcase designs.
You may or may not know that Mitsubishi has faced class action suits for their earlier generation talon/eclipse/laser series models. Their are incidents where people have died since the tcase locked up on them due to a faulty rear seal causing the tcase to lose fluid leading to the eventual failure and seizure of the part. Goin 60mph and having all four wheels lock is a scary scary thought.
I think that it is a serious and neglegent act for Mitsubishi to overlook this design flaw and not instate a recall. Mitsu you get two thumbs down.
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i agree with you 110%. my friends 05 evo the transfer case went 3 times and mitsubishi said it was driver error. i think it is a bunch of bs..they def should be on recall cuz i have plenty of buddy's that there t-case went on them and they are driving like and average person with about 20k miles...it is such garbage how they can produce a well performing car with a piece a junk t-case...unbelieveable
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I've seen enough of these cars with good and bad TC's to know a majority of the problems are due to driver error or abuse..
That doesn't say there isn't an inherant design flaw or problem, but there are 30,000 evo's in The USA at this point, and I don't think there are more than 10% with problems but most can be directly attributed to abuse.
The evo community online is a really poor cross-section of the entire Evo community, since there are far more cars out there that aren't represented here. IF you wen't by this site, 80% of all Evo's are modified, when thats just not true.
That doesn't say there isn't an inherant design flaw or problem, but there are 30,000 evo's in The USA at this point, and I don't think there are more than 10% with problems but most can be directly attributed to abuse.
The evo community online is a really poor cross-section of the entire Evo community, since there are far more cars out there that aren't represented here. IF you wen't by this site, 80% of all Evo's are modified, when thats just not true.
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Mine went on my 03 on my way to work today. I car has never see the track, has never been launched, and I was just cruising at 75mph when it just started whining out of nowhere, no signs of problems until today. Now it makes a terrible clicking noise as I drive it at any speed also. Still on the stock clutch which grabs fine, so I'm going to so it's definately not from abuse, the car only has 13k miles on it.
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Originally Posted by Silver_03
Mine went on my 03 on my way to work today. I car has never see the track, has never been launched, and I was just cruising at 75mph when it just started whining out of nowhere, no signs of problems until today. Now it makes a terrible clicking noise as I drive it at any speed also. Still on the stock clutch which grabs fine, so I'm going to so it's definately not from abuse, the car only has 13k miles on it.
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
I've seen enough of these cars with good and bad TC's to know a majority of the problems are due to driver error or abuse..
That doesn't say there isn't an inherant design flaw or problem, but there are 30,000 evo's in The USA at this point, and I don't think there are more than 10% with problems but most can be directly attributed to abuse.
The evo community online is a really poor cross-section of the entire Evo community, since there are far more cars out there that aren't represented here. IF you wen't by this site, 80% of all Evo's are modified, when thats just not true.
That doesn't say there isn't an inherant design flaw or problem, but there are 30,000 evo's in The USA at this point, and I don't think there are more than 10% with problems but most can be directly attributed to abuse.
The evo community online is a really poor cross-section of the entire Evo community, since there are far more cars out there that aren't represented here. IF you wen't by this site, 80% of all Evo's are modified, when thats just not true.
The answer is in that the USDM tcase is a first shot by Mitsu. Had they used a tried and true design from the VII or a previous Evo edition, I'd be willing to bet my left arm this wouldn't be happening. Therefore, it is, as most USDM parts, watered down and not well designed.
Personally, my car has just a hair over 8k on the OD and I baby the christ out of it. My R1 and 1G are for my redheaded step child abuse, not my baby. And, if you dig into this a bit, you will find that this problem is effecting "normal" drivers quite a bit as well. And on that note, stating that abuse is the cause of failure in many instances is basically an argument that it is poorly designed. Using modified Evo's as a benchmark is probably the best way to speak of a components reliability. Hence the 4G63's stout reputation-Oh look I can put 30psi through stock internals--COOL!!!. The fact that these tcases aren't standing up to the modded Evo's ability to make power shows that it is inherantly flawed in it's design as being THE weak link in the drivetrain.
My concern truely lies in the fact that with it failing at such low milage on cars that are barely beaten on, in conjunction with the fact that the tcase is intertwined with all three differentials in the car, there is a warrented concern for safety. If your tcase decides to seize at 65 mph on the expressway and your center diff, front diff and rear diff all lock up therefore locking all four wheels......well, lets just say I hope youre wearing your sealtbelt.
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Oops, forgot to mention. If you are serious about trying to incite change then please take the three minutes to file a formal complaint with the NHTSA letting them know about the safety issues and poor design quality. If enough voices shout, the NHTSA wil definately listen! They have quite the political leverage to get big companies to make changes, at the very least a TSB!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Complaint form
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Complaint form
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soo im bout to get an 03 evo 8 and ive had nightmares that this is going to happen to me...lol but first thing i want to do is change the TC fluid...wat fluid do u guys recomend????
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56k no whines or moans at all. Shifts like butter. Not abused. Maintenence is your friend.
I cant wait for my Tranny and TC to go. It just wont. Shep or TRE will get my buissnes when the time comes
I have to agree with Jack most blow TC's and Trannys are caused by abuse.
I cant wait for my Tranny and TC to go. It just wont. Shep or TRE will get my buissnes when the time comes
I have to agree with Jack most blow TC's and Trannys are caused by abuse.
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Originally Posted by Lasersleeper
Oops, forgot to mention. If you are serious about trying to incite change then please take the three minutes to file a formal complaint with the NHTSA letting them know about the safety issues and poor design quality. If enough voices shout, the NHTSA wil definately listen! They have quite the political leverage to get big companies to make changes, at the very least a TSB!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Complaint form
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Complaint form
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First of all, congrats on that low mileage. I wish I could have done that with mine (I initially wanted to),but it's far too fun to not drive it all the time.
I'm afraid I can't agree with this post either. Although I have heard rumors of some Evos with transfer cases/diffs/trannies being sold with low fluid initially from the dealership, I've never had a transfer case problem in my 58k miles of driving and racing my car. Only time I've seen one go out is when the guy kept dumping the clutch to launch it.
I'm afraid I can't agree with this post either. Although I have heard rumors of some Evos with transfer cases/diffs/trannies being sold with low fluid initially from the dealership, I've never had a transfer case problem in my 58k miles of driving and racing my car. Only time I've seen one go out is when the guy kept dumping the clutch to launch it.