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Old Dec 7, 2006, 02:29 PM
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11.2 @ 120 on the stock turbo, but I want more. What next?

I recently ran 11.22@120mph with the stock turbo and a decent amount of weight reduction. I'm now looking for suggestions on how I can make my Evo more powerful with the stock snail in pursuit of those elusive 10 second timeslips.

Here are my current mods:

Stock 2005 16G Turbo with the 10.5 hotside (~21psi to redline)
Dynoflash C16 race gas tune (stock ECU)
Crushed MR BOV
Buschur Race FMIC with piping
Walbro fuel pump
Stock injectors/MAF/bottom end/no head work/etc.
HKS RS Intake
HKS 264/272 cams
QTP 3" downpipe with cutout
Cusco Twin Disc Clutch
BFG 225-45-17 Drag Radials

For future mods I'm thinking of the following:

Ebay O2 housing
Buschur ported exhaust manifold
Forge WGA & stronger BOV for more sustained high RPM boost
Wilder cams, possibly GSC or HKS 280/280
Some system which will let me remove the MAF (MAFTpro maybe?)
Maybe an aftermarket ignition system.

What do you guys think of these mods?

Any other mods you guys would suggest which could improve my 1/4 mile times with the stock turbo? I'm trying somewhat to do this on a budget, so spending $2K on a standalone or cylinder head is out of the question at this point.

Thanks for any help!
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evo 9 turbo?

i might have one fs haha
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Thanks for the offer, but I really want to stick with the Evo 8 turbo. It's quite the challenge seeing how far I can push this thing with the stock snail.
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I think your goal should be to do the same thing with an interior.

If your running 21psi to redline and running these times maybe turning the boost up, but I gather your not running 21psi on the track,or your running 88 degrees of timing....

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meth injection? or you wanna keep it kinda safe?
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he's running 30psi and it tapers to 21 psi

fkn liar
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Originally Posted by Kee1pride
he's running 30psi and it tapers to 21 psi

fkn liar
? lol ?

o yea he has a race gas tune..
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You gotta turn up the boost more, TTP ran his stock turbo to more then 30 psi; and i'm assuming Curt Brown did the same. CB also had standalone and every bolt-on possible; and i think you will have to do the same to get into the 10's.
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How much boost?
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bigger cams

ported hotside/manifold

ebay o2 housing

wga, **** just weld your wastegate shut.
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Originally Posted by scorke
I think your goal should be to do the same thing with an interior.
Actually, further weight reduction is planned. I am going all out with this car and ultimately want to beat Curt Brown's 10.59. It will be tough, but I think it can be done.
If your running 21psi to redline and running these times maybe turning the boost up, but I gather your not running 21psi on the track,or your running 88 degrees of timing....
I hit over 30psi down low, but it only holds 21psi up top. This is where I'm hoping the Forge WGA and better BOV will help along with maybe some of the other mods such as the Ebay O2 housing.

I'm actually running the same exact timing map as I was on my 93 octane flash!

Keep in mind the car is a good 400lbs lighter than a stock Evo.
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Originally Posted by Pure Playaer
meth injection? or you wanna keep it kinda safe?
I'd rather just use C16 and not mess with meth injection. Besides, wouldn't C16 + meth injection be overkill for what the stock turbo can do?
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Originally Posted by Kee1pride
he's running 30psi and it tapers to 21 psi

fkn liar
Why would I lie about how much boost I hold to redline if I'm asking for ways to improve it? I have the dyno sheets from Al @ Dynoflash which show the boost overlayed on the graph. Is anybody here seeing more than 21psi with the stock turbo to redline? If so, please list your mods.
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Originally Posted by KOEvo
You gotta turn up the boost more, TTP ran his stock turbo to more then 30 psi; and i'm assuming Curt Brown did the same. CB also had standalone and every bolt-on possible; and i think you will have to do the same to get into the 10's.
Well I'm running off the wastegate right now with no boost control so the turbo is producing as much boost as it possibly can make. This is why I'm thinking my BOV may be leaking up top? Or that I need to either weld my wastegate shut or try using a stiffer spring? Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by mike1023
Well I'm running off the wastegate right now with no boost control so the turbo is producing as much boost as it possibly can make. This is why I'm thinking my BOV may be leaking up top? Or that I need to either weld my wastegate shut or try using a stiffer spring? Thoughts?
That may help or consider one of the forge products with the high boost rate spring.

Btw can you post some slips for that time you ran? I'm willing to bet the 60' times need some improvement to match Curt Brown plus the trap speed should give an indication if the boost is leaking a little with such an aggressive stock turbo setup.

Edit:
N/m finally saw the video link, very impressive

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