Has anyone yet tried this new turbo with the Forged WGA?

 

I'm using the Forge WGA on the 20G-9-5 @ 26psi tapers to 24/24.5 depending on the weather. I would assume it would have slightly less taper on the same setup.

 

Is it just me or those original dyno numbers seem quite weak. 27psi and 340tq alone seems VERY low. Most people Al tunes at Pruven make that torque or more with 22psi. The usual hp/tq on pump with 22psi is around 350/350 with bolt ons, cams, etc. Im not going ot compare my numbers since I made a lot of power but it def seems very low for that boost with alcohol/meth. I also even think the new numbers seem very low since guys at BUSCHURS mustang dyno put down comparable numbers and that thing reads MUCH lower.

 

From page 6. Very good information/review 4cdndctn. Thanks.

To TTP's comments. I find you are completely incorrect, as usual. I just finished tuning Bobby's car that made 413 whp on our dyno. The car has a stock EVO9 actuator on it that the turbos come shipped with. The car had a peak boost of 30 psi and falling to just over 26 psi. I'd recommend a boost leak check on the car you had it on, no wonder you weren't impressed with it.

 

From stuff on page 7...

The injectors we recommend if you are not running alky injection are the 680 cc, they will work fine with the stock ECU. IF you are running a stand alone like the AEM EMS I'd probably recommend just stepping up to the 1,000 cc injectors, the cost is only a few dollars more than the 680's and then in the future you wouldn't have to change them again up to 650+ whp. The 1,000's run great/drive great with the stand alone.

IF you are running an alky injection kit you can use the stock injectors with the factory ECU.

The "hump" that is being discussed is a great on the dyno and driving around. That hump is the big "hit" the turbo makes and a spike in boost pressure. Makes the car a torque monster down low in the RPM range. I agree that it can make for some high boost pressures hitting the throttle at low RPM in upper gears like 4th and 5th. It is fun as hell to drive and makes for very impressive torque numbers on the dyno. I've see as much as 532 ft lbs of torque on our dyno from the old
20g-9-5 with a stroker engine and using the HD actuator. This torque was at 4,000 rpm, so when it hit it was unfreaking real.

 

Ask a Pro-street, bigblock Nova if my son's 20LT with Buschur stages 1-4 isn't real world. With many on lookers, the Nova got dusted. Ask the 413 whp trans-am if my son's RS isn't real world. If a Buschur built car isn't real world, let me keep on dreaming because I'm loving my dreams. As soon as David's through with my 2nd RS, I'll be dishing out a few nightmares, if you know what I mean.

 

Somewhere in your dreaming, the point passed you by.

The subject is the level of boost spike and hold at redline with the 20g9LT, not about your dreams, nightmares, selling parts, if an MR is still and MR if it has a 5 or 6 speed, and who uses what fuel to run what times.

Let's not lose focus.

 

Trust me, I'm focused. Your original post made a FLAT STATEMENT to everybody. Unless you're playing with 'what the meaning of is is, like our former President", I would read your statement as a final, definitive, well-tested summation. I just find it difficult to believe that Forced Performance and Buschur, (who by the way could have easily shipped the 20Lt with the HP actuator and called it good, but then some would complain it wasn't necessary) would not have tested and proven that for MOST applications, the pre-loaded stock actuator would get the job done. Nothing is a 'one size fits all'. Hell, I can't even get a T-shirt that's one-size fits all to fit me.

 

I would truly like to think we do not find it necessary to "stretch the truth" to sell parts. Myself and everyone that works here knows we sell what is needed and nothing more to a customer. Actually, 9sec9 would be one that could vouch for this as he is in this thread alreadyf. First time he contacted me he said he wanted to spend XX amount of dollars for his build. I told him it wasn't what I thought he needed to do and he spent a little more than HALF of what was to be his build budget.

If a part works we use it, if it doesn't we won't sell it. If a part works better than one we have we change our design. I think we are the most realistic parts producing company there is, I am sure I am biased.

The 20GLT/Green turbo, was 3 years of development by FP. When it was done and tested there wasn't just 1 model of the turbo, there were numerous models. They were all tested here, back pressure, flow rates, boost capabilities, CFM, outlet air temps etc. Then what is being sold as the 20GLT, EVO Green turbo was released as it was the best that could be built.

 

David, My son concurs with your evaluation. The 20LT(EvoGreen) with stock actuator, preloaded, works! He's pulling 30+ psi and holding it. I would tell exactly how much, but that's TOP SECRET.

 

One more thing, David is right about my '$ budget' that I gave him on my first RS. I walked away with everything I wanted, at barely over half the budgeted price. I'm sure that the HP actuator has it's applications. On the other hand, it also seems that most of the posts of interested parties evolved around pump gas, lower boost and no meth. If my evaluation of the 'early' interested parties is correct, then it would follow that the stock actuator would be the one for that 'crowd'. I also will make an assumption that not all buyers of the 20LT will be pump gas, low psi, no-meth buyers. If that assumption is correct, maybe the HP would be better suited for them. That I don't know, but I do know that a flat statement of 'don't use the stock actuator on this turbo' may not ring entirely true.

 

For me and many other middle of the road folks ..... I think we are looking for a turbo that will provide a 40WHP bump on pump gas with stock like spool and not cost an arm and a leg.



On those days we want to run the MF'r like a mini flame thrower we can toss in race fuel, alchy, or meth and get even more out of it. All dyno shart talking and boost levels aside..... Airflow numbers are looking good to me...... 50lbs with stock like spool is more than a 9 turbo will ever do.

 

Yup, this turbo is compairable to a 50trim with its flow rate is almost the same with 48.9lb/min. This turbo in my book with race gas can get close to 500whp just like the 50 trim turbo. I have my 20G-LT on order with other parts, I'm waiting for shipment sometime next week =).

 

I am REALLY looking for 122MPH traps with this bad boy on pump, is it capable of that?

 

We wont know until someone goes to the track with it