Buschur's Turbo Choices
Apr 7, 2007, 12:08 PM
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May 28, 2007, 11:24 AM
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Fp3065
I'm really looking towards this kit but would like to run a different exhaust mani. Will your kit work with a RnR or others and still have proper fitment? Also, what would pricing be if i wanted the FP3065 kit but wanted your tubular mani (like on your GT40 kits) jet coated instead of the BR cast mani? And I have CompCam 272+ cams, would these work well w/the 3065 or would 280's or something else work best? I'd like to keep my idle close to stock as possible.
May 28, 2007, 12:14 PM
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You would be just as good getting the GT30R if you want a tubular mani...the main point behind the 3065 is so it mates up to stock like manifolds or BR's own mani. The log mani keeps the price below $3000 for these awesome kits I would think. I believe I am going to do the 3065 also. I was supposed to do it last year but instead I opted to go with an AEM EMS instead of flashes and piggybacks and I AM GLAD I did that. I beleive when I upgrade the turbo now, I will see the true power these turbos can provide! I am pretty pleased with 120mph traps on the stock turbo though. Time for 130!
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May 28, 2007, 07:02 PM
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Ok so whats the difference in the Buschur 35R for 3000 and the AMS 35R for 4500. Do they come with different parts or parts missing. I have been wondering about this for a while now. if it's the same kit only an idiot wold spend and extra 1500 for the same kit with the same Hp output.
May 28, 2007, 07:30 PM
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You would be just as good getting the GT30R if you want a tubular mani...the main point behind the 3065 is so it mates up to stock like manifolds or BR's own mani. The log mani keeps the price below $3000 for these awesome kits I would think. I believe I am going to do the 3065 also. I was supposed to do it last year but instead I opted to go with an AEM EMS instead of flashes and piggybacks and I AM GLAD I did that. I beleive when I upgrade the turbo now, I will see the true power these turbos can provide! I am pretty pleased with 120mph traps on the stock turbo though. Time for 130!
May 28, 2007, 07:50 PM
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Ok so whats the difference in the Buschur 35R for 3000 and the AMS 35R for 4500. Do they come with different parts or parts missing. I have been wondering about this for a while now. if it's the same kit only an idiot wold spend and extra 1500 for the same kit with the same Hp output.
May 28, 2007, 08:37 PM
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Wrong, actually the purpose of the FP3065 is to have similar power of a 35R w/quicker spool up. It's the compressor side of a 35R & backside of a 30R mated together. It makes almost the same power as a 35R up until 30+ psi where the 35R would take over but has quicker spool up. The BR log mani in their kits is NOT a stock mani and is made to fit their 50 trim & GT turbos, NOT Mitsu turbos. Their 50 trim, GT30, GT35, and FP3065 kits all use the same log manis.
If someone wants a tubular mani and the 3065, they could go with the Buschur tubular mani and a 3040/3082. The tubular mani has the Garrett T3 outlet and a 3065 won't fit, though maybe Buschir could make one special.
May 29, 2007, 01:24 AM
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The Buschur 35R/37R kits with the shearer headers are like $3900. Why then are the AMS kits $4700, I don't see any real difference in the included parts, why an extra $800?
AMS -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate
Slim fan
Intake Pipe
Lower IC pipe
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
Buschur -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate (44mm vs. 38mm from AMS)
Slim fan
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
So the Buschur kit is minus an intake pipe/filter, and a lower IC pipe. I don't think that's worth $800, plus the fact that the Buschur kit comes with a better wastegate. Only question in my mind is whether or not Buschur offers a recirc on the Wastegate, knowing Buschur my guess is not.
If Forced Performance offered something like this I'd be more inclined to buy it from them. $800 is a pretty big price difference between AMS and Buschur though.
AMS -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate
Slim fan
Intake Pipe
Lower IC pipe
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
Buschur -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate (44mm vs. 38mm from AMS)
Slim fan
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
So the Buschur kit is minus an intake pipe/filter, and a lower IC pipe. I don't think that's worth $800, plus the fact that the Buschur kit comes with a better wastegate. Only question in my mind is whether or not Buschur offers a recirc on the Wastegate, knowing Buschur my guess is not.
If Forced Performance offered something like this I'd be more inclined to buy it from them. $800 is a pretty big price difference between AMS and Buschur though.
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May 29, 2007, 07:11 AM
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On their websites, AMS states their 50 trim as "dual ball bearing" where Buschurs is "ball bearing"
I'm not an expert with turbo's, so could someone please describe the difference between the two types.
I'm not an expert with turbo's, so could someone please describe the difference between the two types.
May 29, 2007, 07:33 AM
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The Buschur 35R/37R kits with the shearer headers are like $3900. Why then are the AMS kits $4700, I don't see any real difference in the included parts, why an extra $800?
AMS -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate
Slim fan
Intake Pipe
Lower IC pipe
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
Buschur -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate (44mm vs. 38mm from AMS)
Slim fan
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
So the Buschur kit is minus an intake pipe/filter, and a lower IC pipe. I don't think that's worth $800, plus the fact that the Buschur kit comes with a better wastegate. Only question in my mind is whether or not Buschur offers a recirc on the Wastegate, knowing Buschur my guess is not.
If Forced Performance offered something like this I'd be more inclined to buy it from them. $800 is a pretty big price difference between AMS and Buschur though.
AMS -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate
Slim fan
Intake Pipe
Lower IC pipe
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
Buschur -
Header
Turbo
O2 housing
Downpipe
Wastegate (44mm vs. 38mm from AMS)
Slim fan
Oil/Water lines, gaskets/hardware
So the Buschur kit is minus an intake pipe/filter, and a lower IC pipe. I don't think that's worth $800, plus the fact that the Buschur kit comes with a better wastegate. Only question in my mind is whether or not Buschur offers a recirc on the Wastegate, knowing Buschur my guess is not.
If Forced Performance offered something like this I'd be more inclined to buy it from them. $800 is a pretty big price difference between AMS and Buschur though.
