350+whp on stock turbo? CA 91 octane
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350+whp on stock turbo? CA 91 octane
I'm looking to make 350+whp on the stock turbo on Cali 91 craptane.
Mods:
ECU flash
RNR carbon-ti TBE
Full-race manifold
Works o2 housing
GSC s1 cams
Denso 720cc
Nisei LICP
AMS FMIC
Turbo smart e-boost II ebc
Custom intake and UICP
Is it possible or just a dream? I only want to run pump but will run meth or alky if I have to just to be safe.
Mods:
ECU flash
RNR carbon-ti TBE
Full-race manifold
Works o2 housing
GSC s1 cams
Denso 720cc
Nisei LICP
AMS FMIC
Turbo smart e-boost II ebc
Custom intake and UICP
Is it possible or just a dream? I only want to run pump but will run meth or alky if I have to just to be safe.
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Yeah with your mods right now and a dyno tune you should be around 360 I believe and if you want to add meth or race gas and run a different map you'll be over 400 with 26-27 psi
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350whp on a dynojet? Maybe. 350whp on a Mustang dyno? Highly unlikely. In fact I highly doubt you'll hit 300whp on the Mustang dyno up at Gruppe-S in Hayward or EIP's Mustang dyno in San Jose. Very few do on the stock turbo. Those who have aren't using pump gas. It's all relative though. These dynos are just really conservative. A Dodge Viper hits about 380whp. It's not about the peak HP/TQ or some print out you can get from your tuner though anyways. It's about the power under the curve and the marked improvement from each successive power adder.
BTW...My '05 VIII has basically the same mod list as you except I have 264in/272ex cams. I dyno'd about 275whp at Gruppe-S. I swapped out the OEM Evo VIII 16G for an Evo IX 16G shortly thereafter and picked up another 15whp and 30wtq. My Evo "8.5" put down numbers pretty consistent with the other comparably equipped Evo IX's, one after another, at a recent dyno day. AFR's were all between 10.8 and 11.2 and boost was at 21.7lbs. I think that's about as high as you want to go with this crappy CA urine we have to put in our cars.
BTW...My '05 VIII has basically the same mod list as you except I have 264in/272ex cams. I dyno'd about 275whp at Gruppe-S. I swapped out the OEM Evo VIII 16G for an Evo IX 16G shortly thereafter and picked up another 15whp and 30wtq. My Evo "8.5" put down numbers pretty consistent with the other comparably equipped Evo IX's, one after another, at a recent dyno day. AFR's were all between 10.8 and 11.2 and boost was at 21.7lbs. I think that's about as high as you want to go with this crappy CA urine we have to put in our cars.
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Yes it is. And, from all I've read and seen over the last 13 months, 95%+ of what makes the Evo IX a more powerfull platform over the Evo VIII is the larger compressor housing on Mitsu's new 16G IX. Same spool characteristics. More torque. More horsepower.
Before I replaced my stock turbo with the 16G IX the numbers were all aligned with other comparably equipped '05 VIII's. After the swap you couldn't tell my peak numbers and my dyno plots from a comparably equipped IX. Stop drinking the cool-aid guys. It's not the magical IX badge. It's the new and improved turbo. Mitsu might not be able to honor a warranty, compete in the WRC or sell SUV's in America, but their turbocharger R&D is second to none IMHO. Just when you think a 16G can't get any better, it does. Wonder what's in store for the X?
Before I replaced my stock turbo with the 16G IX the numbers were all aligned with other comparably equipped '05 VIII's. After the swap you couldn't tell my peak numbers and my dyno plots from a comparably equipped IX. Stop drinking the cool-aid guys. It's not the magical IX badge. It's the new and improved turbo. Mitsu might not be able to honor a warranty, compete in the WRC or sell SUV's in America, but their turbocharger R&D is second to none IMHO. Just when you think a 16G can't get any better, it does. Wonder what's in store for the X?
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Yes it is. And, from all I've read and seen over the last 13 months, 95%+ of what makes the Evo IX a more powerfull platform over the Evo VIII is the larger compressor housing on Mitsu's new 16G IX. Same spool characteristics. More torque. More horsepower.
Before I replaced my stock turbo with the 16G IX the numbers were all aligned with other comparably equipped '05 VIII's. After the swap you couldn't tell my peak numbers and my dyno plots from a comparably equipped IX. Stop drinking the cool-aid guys. It's not the magical IX badge. It's the new and improved turbo. Mitsu might not be able to honor a warranty, compete in the WRC or sell SUV's in America, but their turbocharger R&D is second to none IMHO. Just when you think a 16G can't get any better, it does. Wonder what's in store for the X?
Before I replaced my stock turbo with the 16G IX the numbers were all aligned with other comparably equipped '05 VIII's. After the swap you couldn't tell my peak numbers and my dyno plots from a comparably equipped IX. Stop drinking the cool-aid guys. It's not the magical IX badge. It's the new and improved turbo. Mitsu might not be able to honor a warranty, compete in the WRC or sell SUV's in America, but their turbocharger R&D is second to none IMHO. Just when you think a 16G can't get any better, it does. Wonder what's in store for the X?
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I'm looking to make 350+whp on the stock turbo on Cali 91 craptane.
Mods:
ECU flash
RNR carbon-ti TBE
Full-race manifold
Works o2 housing
GSC s1 cams
Denso 720cc
Nisei LICP
AMS FMIC
Turbo smart e-boost II ebc
Custom intake and UICP
Is it possible or just a dream? I only want to run pump but will run meth or alky if I have to just to be safe.
Mods:
ECU flash
RNR carbon-ti TBE
Full-race manifold
Works o2 housing
GSC s1 cams
Denso 720cc
Nisei LICP
AMS FMIC
Turbo smart e-boost II ebc
Custom intake and UICP
Is it possible or just a dream? I only want to run pump but will run meth or alky if I have to just to be safe.
Search the forums and look, the results are there! People have consistently hit 290-310whp/tq. on the typical low reading nor cal dynos with basic bolt ons and a good tune. These numbers translate to about 330-350whp on most dynojets. If you're talking about making 350whp with your mod list on those dynos running 91 octane only you're going to be disappointed. I would bet 330whp at the most on 91 at Gruppe S, but anythings possible. The FMIC probably wont help too much though as far as hp numbers but good choice on the cams!