20G LT, 1st. day review.
Jan 10, 2007, 06:51 AM
#17
I got the new 20G LT Turbo installed yesturday. First, I will comment about the turbo. By comparison, my stock 9.8 turbo is a much smaller unit. The 20G LT is a jewel. Once you got it in your hands, you can't stop to look at it. It is got a much biger compressor housing, a biger compressor wheel, then it is got a larger 10.5 hot side, and a much larger turbine wheel. Plus, the waste gate flapper is single and much improved. Add the porting option like I did, and get the upgraded 18 psi actuator, and you got a monster for a turbo.
Anyway, I installed the turbo and started the car for the morning work commute yesturday. Turned the boost controller off to verify the actuator was set properly. It was. I adjusted it a few turns at the time of install. With the controller off, I was geting 19.6 psi. Perfect. To make a long story short, I got to miss with it tonight. Tuned the mid-range as it was a bit leaner between 5000 and 6500 rpms. Made a few more logs, adjusted turbo gain and wastegate setting, and made sure I was at around 11.5 -11.6 A/Fs.
This Turbo pulls hard. At 23.4 psi, I am reading 2100 plus HZ on my SAFC at 68 percent throtle. I am posting a pic of the reading. The RPMs clime very fast. All clues that this unit is flowing much more air. I took my friend Manny for a ride tonight, and he was saying it was ridiculous. He drives a IX that has gone 12.05@114.67, and my car has gone 11.8@116. So it take a little to impress us. We both think this turbo made a big difference in my car. It is only been a day, but so far, so good! Here are a few pics of my VIII turbo next to the 20G LT. Both compressor and exhaust shots. A big tumps up for Buschur Racing and FP. In my opinion, great product that does what it was made for, stock spool up and much more top end. Pulls all the way to 8000. And, you better be looking, because it gets there quick. I used the stock manifold with a very nise and nasty port job. I will continue to update this thread on track and dyno runs in the next few weeks. I am thinking of dialing in the cams and crank and a may be also adding Meth injection. For sure, the 1st. few tests will be on C16 and 28 to 29 psi.
Manie
Anyway, I installed the turbo and started the car for the morning work commute yesturday. Turned the boost controller off to verify the actuator was set properly. It was. I adjusted it a few turns at the time of install. With the controller off, I was geting 19.6 psi. Perfect. To make a long story short, I got to miss with it tonight. Tuned the mid-range as it was a bit leaner between 5000 and 6500 rpms. Made a few more logs, adjusted turbo gain and wastegate setting, and made sure I was at around 11.5 -11.6 A/Fs.
This Turbo pulls hard. At 23.4 psi, I am reading 2100 plus HZ on my SAFC at 68 percent throtle. I am posting a pic of the reading. The RPMs clime very fast. All clues that this unit is flowing much more air. I took my friend Manny for a ride tonight, and he was saying it was ridiculous. He drives a IX that has gone 12.05@114.67, and my car has gone 11.8@116. So it take a little to impress us. We both think this turbo made a big difference in my car. It is only been a day, but so far, so good! Here are a few pics of my VIII turbo next to the 20G LT. Both compressor and exhaust shots. A big tumps up for Buschur Racing and FP. In my opinion, great product that does what it was made for, stock spool up and much more top end. Pulls all the way to 8000. And, you better be looking, because it gets there quick. I used the stock manifold with a very nise and nasty port job. I will continue to update this thread on track and dyno runs in the next few weeks. I am thinking of dialing in the cams and crank and a may be also adding Meth injection. For sure, the 1st. few tests will be on C16 and 28 to 29 psi.
Manie
Got to admit Mannie, that car is alot quicker than before
. I'm happy for you man
We'll see how this Turbo does with my IX Setup. Hopefully with a regular flash and my stock ECU, I will also like the results. If not.....well.....I guess I'll just have to keep going 'til I'm happy with it.
Jan 10, 2007, 11:31 AM
#23
I am glad everyone likes the review. Thank you. Lots of members have started threads and have been talking about it for a month or two. I wanted to show some pics and confirm what everyone is saying. The spool is like stock and the power is present.
This turbo would be an upgrade for the IX too. Both VIII and IX turbos are 16G's. Their wheels are the same. The only difference from a VIII to a IX turbo is a larger compressor housing.
On the Buschur Racing 20G LT, the compressor wheel and exhaust wheel are bigger. Take a look at the pictures again. What makes a turbo make the most power are the size of the wheels. The IX turbo has the larger housing and hot side. Add the larger 20G compressor wheel, and a larger turbine wheel, it is going to net more power.
For those who wanted the mods in my car:
1. Greddy racing titanium cat back
2. Ultimate racing 3 inch down pipe
3. Ultimate racing t. pipe
4. Ebay O2 housing
5. Ported and coated stock exhaust manifold
6. Ebay lower intercooler pipe with upgraded Forge silicone hoses and clamps
7. Ebay turbo power FMIC
8. Injen intake and upper intercooler pipe with upgraded T-Clamps
9. Forge RS BOV
10. Buschur Racing 20G LTported with 18 psi actuator (new setup)
11. Fidanza cam gears
12. HKS 264i/272e cams
13. HKS DDI-II Ignition amplifier
14. PRE 780 cc injectors
15. Walbro 255 lbs. fuel pump
16. Tilton twin disk full ceramic clutch
17. Greddy E0-1 boost controller
18. Apexi super AFCII with street and racing maps
19. Innovative Motorsports LC-1 wide band with digital gauge
20. Jester tuning M2 ECU custom flash
21. B&M short throw shifter
22. Lancershop shifter bushings
23. Greddy counter weight shift knob
24. Lancershop carbon fiber rear exhaust bumper cover
25. Linear Technology scan unit with display to read/clear codes
displays w.temp, timming, e. load, i. air temp.
26. Forge front stiff motor mount
27. NGKs BPR9IX plugs
28. Royal Purple ice cooler fluid
29. Hawk Brake Pads
About timing numbers: I am able to see my timing on the fly with my Linear Tech scan gauge. Every car is different. I have got a custom tune by Jestr. I would subjest talking to your favorite tuner and asking them what is best for you. My cam gears/cam combination, injector size, driving style, etc. all have to be taken into acoount.
This turbo would be an upgrade for the IX too. Both VIII and IX turbos are 16G's. Their wheels are the same. The only difference from a VIII to a IX turbo is a larger compressor housing.
On the Buschur Racing 20G LT, the compressor wheel and exhaust wheel are bigger. Take a look at the pictures again. What makes a turbo make the most power are the size of the wheels. The IX turbo has the larger housing and hot side. Add the larger 20G compressor wheel, and a larger turbine wheel, it is going to net more power.
For those who wanted the mods in my car:
1. Greddy racing titanium cat back
2. Ultimate racing 3 inch down pipe
3. Ultimate racing t. pipe
4. Ebay O2 housing
5. Ported and coated stock exhaust manifold
6. Ebay lower intercooler pipe with upgraded Forge silicone hoses and clamps
7. Ebay turbo power FMIC
8. Injen intake and upper intercooler pipe with upgraded T-Clamps
9. Forge RS BOV
10. Buschur Racing 20G LTported with 18 psi actuator (new setup)
11. Fidanza cam gears
12. HKS 264i/272e cams
13. HKS DDI-II Ignition amplifier
14. PRE 780 cc injectors
15. Walbro 255 lbs. fuel pump
16. Tilton twin disk full ceramic clutch
17. Greddy E0-1 boost controller
18. Apexi super AFCII with street and racing maps
19. Innovative Motorsports LC-1 wide band with digital gauge
20. Jester tuning M2 ECU custom flash
21. B&M short throw shifter
22. Lancershop shifter bushings
23. Greddy counter weight shift knob
24. Lancershop carbon fiber rear exhaust bumper cover
25. Linear Technology scan unit with display to read/clear codes
displays w.temp, timming, e. load, i. air temp.
26. Forge front stiff motor mount
27. NGKs BPR9IX plugs
28. Royal Purple ice cooler fluid
29. Hawk Brake Pads
About timing numbers: I am able to see my timing on the fly with my Linear Tech scan gauge. Every car is different. I have got a custom tune by Jestr. I would subjest talking to your favorite tuner and asking them what is best for you. My cam gears/cam combination, injector size, driving style, etc. all have to be taken into acoount.
Jan 10, 2007, 11:32 AM
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I'll let you guys how this turbo perform on the Evo 9 this saturday. I already have an appointment to get my car re-tune with this turbo being install and GSC S1 cams.
Jan 10, 2007, 12:47 PM
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Yeah is sure appears too considering his car ran 11.8 on stock 9.8 turbo...
Can you link to the intercooler that all you guys use? The hardest part is finding the right one...
Can you link to the intercooler that all you guys use? The hardest part is finding the right one...
Last edited by KOEvo; Jan 10, 2007 at 12:58 PM.
Jan 10, 2007, 01:37 PM
#29
Post a link to that eBay FMIC, I will be running an ebay Exhaust and 02 housing, why not a FMIC? How well did it fit?
Anybody run this one? It appears to be a DIRECT ripoff of the AMS. Anyone know?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsu...QQcmdZViewItem
Anybody run this one? It appears to be a DIRECT ripoff of the AMS. Anyone know?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsu...QQcmdZViewItem
Last edited by High_PSI; Jan 10, 2007 at 01:40 PM.