HKS sequential Tranny
Jan 11, 2007, 09:59 AM
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That Holinger link only states that it is a dog box not sequential. I was pretty sure that dog box only meant it had dog rings instead of synchros not, really having anything to do with shift pattern. Am I wrong?
Jan 11, 2007, 10:36 AM
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you can add a sequencial shifter to it and rock and roll. already checked into it.
the 06 997 cups sequencials were similar in style. still have to use the clutch to start off and to down shift but all up shifts are clutchless.
the 06 997 cups sequencials were similar in style. still have to use the clutch to start off and to down shift but all up shifts are clutchless.
Jan 11, 2007, 06:46 PM
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That aint nothing thats around 10g's if you get a good deal.
Here are some JDM baller dog boxes
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=5716
Ralliart makes one but there is not a link for it.
WRC Custom says they make one but ive never seen anything on it but there are 2 evo's that run them. But after 2 days of searching i gave out on it.
I was thinking about getting the JSpeed I was getting it a a rock star price with the trans.
But that hks one is a good find.
Here are some JDM baller dog boxes
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=5716
Ralliart makes one but there is not a link for it.
WRC Custom says they make one but ive never seen anything on it but there are 2 evo's that run them. But after 2 days of searching i gave out on it.
I was thinking about getting the JSpeed I was getting it a a rock star price with the trans.
But that hks one is a good find.
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Jan 11, 2007, 07:12 PM
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I was also at PRI and Modena Engineering was there. They have a sequential gearbox that has 1-3 in dog and 4 and 5 with synchros. Or a 5 and 6 synchro. I only have his email: modena@smartchat.net.au
Jan 12, 2007, 02:01 PM
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Anyone making a TRUE sequential trans that can handle any real power is going to want $20k or more for it.
Dog conversions are available from ShepTrans or TRE in the $8k or $9k range.
http://sheptrans.com/stage5.php?vid=evo
Dog conversions are available from ShepTrans or TRE in the $8k or $9k range.
http://sheptrans.com/stage5.php?vid=evo
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Sequential boxes are great. Quicker and cleaner, however they cost a relative fortune. Relative to the standard evo realm, that is. A 200k racecar, a bulletproof 20k tranny is expensive but not a deal breaker.
The major advantage dog boxes have for a street driven evo is the fact that you can still select gears as in a normal transmission, at least that is through any observation of a dog box operation.
A sequntial box, like a motorcycle, has to be cycled up and down through the gears.
I remember Subaru's rally car has an electronically operated version of just such a tranny, and was upwards of 70k a piece due to the innovation.
Getting money to dump into a japanese "baller" tranny (not trying to offend, I like the way that was put) is not necessary when we have domestic dog boxes that accomplish the same feat, almost.
Shep is a gentleman, good business man, but an awesome tranny guru. Marco from magnus I have had several conversations with, and reading about the magnus dogmission says it has a pretty solid history.
Just a few issues....one, when an evo transfer case and tranny are built and driven properly, you can have just as much reliability (ok, thats not totally true) but pretty much an OK situation as long as caution is used.
Dog boxes use straight cut gears...they are noisier than hell and I havent been able to establish a time line for servicing, but rest assured that just through the engineering aspect of it, they shouldnt last for a terribly long time without opening up important clearances over time.
But the cool factor is wild...slamming shifts without a clutch, positive engagement a good portion of the time and stronger than stock by a big margin.
Oh, and those Ikeya sequential shifters apparently take quite a bit of fiddling with to get it right and still, you can miss a shift HARD with them. I would prefer the feel of a standard 5 speed knob. Look on youtube.com for John Norris' SWB evo, the 200mph run up...he misses last gear and has to yank it again to do it. Cool, but not infallable. My ZX12r use to miss shifts in the 1/4 if I didn't hit 3rd as hard as I could, and without the clutch as the tranny got older was a pain in the butt. Much improved over a standard, standard tranny, but they are, as I said, not infallable.
Just so damn expensive.
The major advantage dog boxes have for a street driven evo is the fact that you can still select gears as in a normal transmission, at least that is through any observation of a dog box operation.
A sequntial box, like a motorcycle, has to be cycled up and down through the gears.
I remember Subaru's rally car has an electronically operated version of just such a tranny, and was upwards of 70k a piece due to the innovation.
Getting money to dump into a japanese "baller" tranny (not trying to offend, I like the way that was put) is not necessary when we have domestic dog boxes that accomplish the same feat, almost.
Shep is a gentleman, good business man, but an awesome tranny guru. Marco from magnus I have had several conversations with, and reading about the magnus dogmission says it has a pretty solid history.
Just a few issues....one, when an evo transfer case and tranny are built and driven properly, you can have just as much reliability (ok, thats not totally true) but pretty much an OK situation as long as caution is used.
Dog boxes use straight cut gears...they are noisier than hell and I havent been able to establish a time line for servicing, but rest assured that just through the engineering aspect of it, they shouldnt last for a terribly long time without opening up important clearances over time.
But the cool factor is wild...slamming shifts without a clutch, positive engagement a good portion of the time and stronger than stock by a big margin.
Oh, and those Ikeya sequential shifters apparently take quite a bit of fiddling with to get it right and still, you can miss a shift HARD with them. I would prefer the feel of a standard 5 speed knob. Look on youtube.com for John Norris' SWB evo, the 200mph run up...he misses last gear and has to yank it again to do it. Cool, but not infallable. My ZX12r use to miss shifts in the 1/4 if I didn't hit 3rd as hard as I could, and without the clutch as the tranny got older was a pain in the butt. Much improved over a standard, standard tranny, but they are, as I said, not infallable.
Just so damn expensive.
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