any one have dyno gains of 264/272 cams untuned?
Mar 28, 2007, 10:29 PM
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any one have dyno gains of 264/272 cams untuned?
i am just wondering how much hp do you get from just installing 264/272 cams? with out a tune. will i feel the power from a seat of the pants?
is it like 12hp then like 15 more once its tuned?
is it like 12hp then like 15 more once its tuned?
Mar 29, 2007, 05:08 PM
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I went on 1-20-2005 from 300.6 whp at 6500 rpms and 324.4 tq. at 4000 rpms to on 1-5-2005 327.0 whp at 5500 rpms and 377.8 tq. at 4000 rpms on a Mustang Dyno.
I wanted to be specific for you. The boost was probably very similar on both runs, as well as fuel. I like to keep everything as much the same as possible.
Cam gear settings were at -2, -2. Changed them later that month to -4,-1 and gained hp to 337 after it and slight SAFC tune.
I hope this is what you needed to know.
I wanted to be specific for you. The boost was probably very similar on both runs, as well as fuel. I like to keep everything as much the same as possible.
Cam gear settings were at -2, -2. Changed them later that month to -4,-1 and gained hp to 337 after it and slight SAFC tune.
I hope this is what you needed to know.
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Mar 29, 2007, 05:55 PM
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No Sir, I picked up 27 whp from just the cams.
I then changed the gears settings and tuned it a little with the SAFC and then gained 10 more hp.
I got the Dyno graphs here. That is where I got the information from.
And I am still using the cams too. 264i/272 exhasut. HKS, great cams,
.
I then changed the gears settings and tuned it a little with the SAFC and then gained 10 more hp.
I got the Dyno graphs here. That is where I got the information from.
And I am still using the cams too. 264i/272 exhasut. HKS, great cams,
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No Sir, I picked up 27 whp from just the cams.
I then changed the gears settings and tuned it a little with the SAFC and then gained 10 more hp.
I got the Dyno graphs here. That is where I got the information from.
And I am still using the cams too. 264i/272 exhasut. HKS, great cams, .
I then changed the gears settings and tuned it a little with the SAFC and then gained 10 more hp.
I got the Dyno graphs here. That is where I got the information from.
And I am still using the cams too. 264i/272 exhasut. HKS, great cams,
.Thank
Derek
Mar 29, 2007, 09:42 PM
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Mannie,
were you on pump or race gas when you just trapped 120mph?
I had a little over 1/4 tank of pump(93) and added 5 gal of VP100.
So it was thin, I did not plan to run the car that night. Too much
pump and then adding the race fuel put me over 1/2 tank of fuel.
Terrible for drag racing. And I could not turn the boost up as
much as I normally do. But it was very good until the car is
run again.
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wow 27 just dropin them in? what octane? we only have 91 here. can you post the graphs or link me to them??
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Derek
I only Dyno my car on higher octane fuels, Derek. VP110 or C16.
Sometimes a mix of pump and race fuel depending on how empty my
tank is when I take my car to it. Here are the graphs. You owe me man,
it took time to scan this and process for your viewing pleassure,
.
Mannie,
were you on pump or race gas when you just trapped 120mph?
I had a little over 1/4 tank of pump(93) and added 5 gal of VP100.
So it was thin, I did not plan to run the car that night. Too much
pump and then adding the race fuel put me over 1/2 tank of fuel.
Terrible for drag racing. And I could not turn the boost up as
much as I normally do. But it was very good until the car is
run again.
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wow 27 just dropin them in? what octane? we only have 91 here. can you post the graphs or link me to them??
Thank
Derek
I only Dyno my car on higher octane fuels, Derek. VP110 or C16.
Sometimes a mix of pump and race fuel depending on how empty my
tank is when I take my car to it. Here are the graphs. You owe me man,
it took time to scan this and process for your viewing pleassure,
. 
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it looks like changed boost levels to me, not cam change.
spool looks the same, but looks like more boost. then top end when the boost is falling the HP levels are even when its out of controlable boost levels.
with cams you should see stronger levels.
anyways either way, seems like you could use more tuning!
also seems odd to only tune your car when your running race gas, unless thats what you only use. why tune the car on high octane then not use only high octane? you are one confusing guy
spool looks the same, but looks like more boost. then top end when the boost is falling the HP levels are even when its out of controlable boost levels.
with cams you should see stronger levels.
anyways either way, seems like you could use more tuning!
also seems odd to only tune your car when your running race gas, unless thats what you only use. why tune the car on high octane then not use only high octane? you are one confusing guy
Mar 29, 2007, 10:52 PM
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ApexVIII, your welcome, .
EvoRecordSetter, I am the one posting the graphs here for him.
If I say this are the results from a Cam change, then it is, since it is
my car and I know what change I made. Don't asune it was a boost change.
It was not.
The cams should be stronger allright, click on this link and see my latest tune and Dyno graph. Same cams as in 2005. You like what you see?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=248112
You think they can be improved any more? That power band does not drop at all.
It is tuned by Jester to perfection. And was tuned the same way then.
The thing some of you don't understand is that adding parts and tuning is
an Evolution. It takes time, and if you do things right , it will pay off in the end.
I got docens of this graphs, since I allways Dyno my car after a tune or a
major part added.
The reason the power band was moved in those graphs is because of the cam gears being set at -2/-1 as noted in other posts here.
I race on hi test fuel, therefore I tune with race fuel.
I run 2 maps. One for pump and one for race fuel. Nothing odd about me.
If you are going to break records, you do it all the way. You should know, your
name is EvoRecordSetter,
.
I forgot to mention, my Evo went 11.8 at 116 plus on the stock turbo and this little cams, too .
.EvoRecordSetter, I am the one posting the graphs here for him.
If I say this are the results from a Cam change, then it is, since it is
my car and I know what change I made. Don't asune it was a boost change.
It was not.
The cams should be stronger allright, click on this link and see my latest tune and Dyno graph. Same cams as in 2005. You like what you see?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=248112
You think they can be improved any more? That power band does not drop at all.
It is tuned by Jester to perfection. And was tuned the same way then.
The thing some of you don't understand is that adding parts and tuning is
an Evolution. It takes time, and if you do things right , it will pay off in the end.
I got docens of this graphs, since I allways Dyno my car after a tune or a
major part added.
The reason the power band was moved in those graphs is because of the cam gears being set at -2/-1 as noted in other posts here.
I race on hi test fuel, therefore I tune with race fuel.
I run 2 maps. One for pump and one for race fuel. Nothing odd about me.
If you are going to break records, you do it all the way. You should know, your
name is EvoRecordSetter,
.I forgot to mention, my Evo went 11.8 at 116 plus on the stock turbo and this little cams, too
.
Mar 30, 2007, 06:49 AM
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Hi,
Here is my experience. I had Buddy Club 264/272 cams installed, then dynoed at Pruven (dynojet) a few weeks later. At the time, I had a Helix Cat-back with the silencer installed. The first pull was as I drove the car, 93 pump gas, and it made ~260 WHP.
We removed the silencer and ran it again, for ~300 WHP.
Al did his custome dynoflash for a net result of 330 WHP/338WTQ. When the cams were first installed, I had an SAFCII hooked up, pulling 3-5% fuel uptop. I had no wideband, so this was "untuned". I do not recommend it. After the 300 WHP pull, we uninstalled the SAFCII.
Anyway, with cams, K&N air filter (stock airbox), 3" DP, 3" RT Cat, and 3" exhaust, I made ~300 WHP on pump in essentially an untuned state. Definitely stronger and smoother with the tune, but that should give you an idea. I would suggest that you get it tuned....
Look in the dynoflash forum for a post titled "Helix silencer sucks" or something like that.
GL!
FB
Here is my experience. I had Buddy Club 264/272 cams installed, then dynoed at Pruven (dynojet) a few weeks later. At the time, I had a Helix Cat-back with the silencer installed. The first pull was as I drove the car, 93 pump gas, and it made ~260 WHP.
We removed the silencer and ran it again, for ~300 WHP.
Al did his custome dynoflash for a net result of 330 WHP/338WTQ. When the cams were first installed, I had an SAFCII hooked up, pulling 3-5% fuel uptop. I had no wideband, so this was "untuned". I do not recommend it. After the 300 WHP pull, we uninstalled the SAFCII.
Anyway, with cams, K&N air filter (stock airbox), 3" DP, 3" RT Cat, and 3" exhaust, I made ~300 WHP on pump in essentially an untuned state. Definitely stronger and smoother with the tune, but that should give you an idea. I would suggest that you get it tuned....
Look in the dynoflash forum for a post titled "Helix silencer sucks" or something like that.
GL!
FB