AMS 50-trim vs 20Glt whats better for daily driving?
Apr 3, 2007, 03:18 PM
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this is still a very new turbo and in a lot of places it is still not really spring yet. (snow forecast for the next 3 days here 
) ......what kind of dyno is at Turbotrix?
I'll have some new numbers for you soon.
Right now my car (20g-LT) puts down 411/400 on BR's dyno 31lbs C16.
Apr 3, 2007, 03:59 PM
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Patience this is still a very new turbo and in a lot of places it is still not really spring yet. (snow forecast for the next 3 days here )
......what kind of dyno is at Turbotrix?
I'll have some new numbers for you soon.
Right now my car (20g-LT) puts down 411/400 on BR's dyno 31lbs C16.
this is still a very new turbo and in a lot of places it is still not really spring yet. (snow forecast for the next 3 days here ) ......what kind of dyno is at Turbotrix?
I'll have some new numbers for you soon.
Right now my car (20g-LT) puts down 411/400 on BR's dyno 31lbs C16.
those are some nice numbers
Apr 3, 2007, 06:52 PM
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I've just read all 7 pages and I think that maybe you have chosen the wrong turbo. I know you are saying that the 50 trim will beat a 20g-LT from a roll and to look at Creamo 3's sig but have any of you ever thought about the driver mod? (like 4 Wheel Slide was saying)
Creamo 3 may have trappped higher than me with a 50 trim but I've got him by 3 tenths and that was with a 20g-9 and 366whp on BR's dyno. (see my sig)
Now, with 411whp I'm hoping (fingers crossed) for 128 mph traps and maybe a 10 sec. pass on a 20g-LT.
Creamo 3 may have trappped higher than me with a 50 trim but I've got him by 3 tenths and that was with a 20g-9 and 366whp on BR's dyno. (see my sig)
Now, with 411whp I'm hoping (fingers crossed) for 128 mph traps and maybe a 10 sec. pass on a 20g-LT.
With a better 60' I'll be able to shave alot off my time. My setup is really pretty mild considering I am running GSC 264/272 cams, Dynoflash tune, and meth injection opposed to race gas. Also my car is far from feather weight: 3563lbs w/ me in it. I believe Buschur/Curt Brown were able to trap 128mph w/ around 450whp on Buschur's dyno. Good luck w/ the times
Apr 4, 2007, 07:13 AM
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Yes that is true. I dont have the money anymore but I saved because I found out many times that you get what you pay for!
Apr 4, 2007, 07:19 AM
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at least people know here they'd get a lot better spool with better response, while not getting the same topend as a 50 trim.
someone just posted they made 411whp on buschur's dyno...applying the despised 20% rough translation, thats 493whp on a dynojet...only 7whp less than the highest 50 trim number posted on here! Even if the 20% is vastly overstated, the green is still great bang for the buck!
Apr 4, 2007, 12:19 PM
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People do not realize that the 20G bolt-on unit is not as efficient as the AMS unit simply because it still retains the twin scroll and has more back pressure so the boost DOES fall off. I won't hold as much boost up top and still drops of similar to the OEM turbo. It's housing isn't as efficient as the 50Trim housing but that doesn't mean that it is bad. It still makes big power over the OEM unit, it just won't make the power that a 50Trim can up top.
The 20G may very well be the ultimate setup but it certainly cannot hold boost like a 50 trim can.
The 20G may very well be the ultimate setup but it certainly cannot hold boost like a 50 trim can.
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People do not realize that the 20G bolt-on unit is not as efficient as the AMS unit simply because it still retains the twin scroll and has more back pressure so the boost DOES fall off. I won't hold as much boost up top and still drops of similar to the OEM turbo. It's housing isn't as efficient as the 50Trim housing but that doesn't mean that it is bad. It still makes big power over the OEM unit, it just won't make the power that a 50Trim can up top.
The 20G may very well be the ultimate setup but it certainly cannot hold boost like a 50 trim can.
The 20G may very well be the ultimate setup but it certainly cannot hold boost like a 50 trim can.
That's also why I think the 20G-LT will max out around 460-470whp. But the 20G should provide much better mid-range and low end then the 50 Trim. It just depend what people are looking for.
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very true...but i think that more applies to quality, rather than the issues of a green vs. a 50 trim.
at least people know here they'd get a lot better spool with better response, while not getting the same topend as a 50 trim.
someone just posted they made 411whp on buschur's dyno...applying the despised 20% rough translation, thats 493whp on a dynojet...only 7whp less than the highest 50 trim number posted on here! Even if the 20% is vastly overstated, the green is still great bang for the buck!
at least people know here they'd get a lot better spool with better response, while not getting the same topend as a 50 trim.
someone just posted they made 411whp on buschur's dyno...applying the despised 20% rough translation, thats 493whp on a dynojet...only 7whp less than the highest 50 trim number posted on here! Even if the 20% is vastly overstated, the green is still great bang for the buck!
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Compared to you I have the 50 trim and my spool up maybe 150 rpms later but by looking at your numbers below I made 417whp and 340 ft. Know if I switched to race gas I would but 500 whp and my torque would jump more than 100ft if not more. Good difference in torque from pump to race gas! But spool is really almost the same with both turbos though!
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Patience this is still a very new turbo and in a lot of places it is still not really spring yet. (snow forecast for the next 3 days here )
......what kind of dyno is at Turbotrix?
I'll have some new numbers for you soon.
Right now my car (20g-LT) puts down 411/400 on BR's dyno 31lbs C16.
this is still a very new turbo and in a lot of places it is still not really spring yet. (snow forecast for the next 3 days here ) ......what kind of dyno is at Turbotrix?
I'll have some new numbers for you soon.
Right now my car (20g-LT) puts down 411/400 on BR's dyno 31lbs C16.