560whp Evo 9 @ Buschur Racing (yes.... another one)
#32
A larger turbo and a proper combination of parts will allow you to run more boost on pump. I've ran as high as 30 psi on 93-94 octane. These cars lately I have gone up to 25 psi and let them leave like that with full confidence they will be fine.
Why ONLY 8,000 rpm? I have on explanation, I guess because I am an amatuer is my answer. Looking at the graph do YOU see a reason for me to go to 11,000 rpm? I personally don't. The car was run higher during the process of tuning it and that run on the logger probably went to 8700 rpm or so. The dyno tells part of the story, the datalog tells what I really want to know. These dyno graphs are for you guys to see, the customer to brag about. I can street car all of these cars and make the same power.
I am just going to skip some of the other questions as I can't tell if they are smart *** questions or legit. Each car is different. Each customers goal is different. They make what they make. They are unsafe for the road with this kind of power and quite honestly, most guys that pick up a car like this are scared of it. IF something goes wrong (traffic, out of control, wet roads, dirt patch etc.) someone is probably going to die.
I wish I could take more guys for rides in cars like this, the proof is in the fright.
I took a few guys for a ride in my RS a few weeks ago. One of them owns a 500+ whp STi. He didn't look so good in my car, I looked at him and when I did he said, "I just threw up in my mouth, I have never felt anything like that." The bad part is, I am pretty sure he was serious.
The owner of the car we finished yesterday made 567 whp. He has MANY exotic and high hp cars. Owns a high profile race team. The car scared him, plain and simple. A 3066 pound street car with 560 whp on OUR dyno is one very freaking sick/serious machine.
Put it into perspective, once again (yes for the 1,000th time) my EVO made only 542 whp on our dyno and ran a 9.97 at 142.32 mph.
We are talking about EVO's here that are all capable of running 9's at well over 140 mph. 2 years ago the only car doing that was a gutted drag EVO on the bottle.
This particular car was at the shop a LONG time. The actual build took about a week. This was an unusual build as the car came to us with a problem and then it turned into a build that got larger and larger and larger. There were many decisions made and changed, money that had to be aquired etc.
For those curious and I have said this before too. What we prefer to do on ANY build, big or small is this: You call, tell us what you want, we take the order, we do NOT take your money. We get everything on the order built and have it all ready. Then we call you, ask you to bring the car in ASAP. The car comes in and we do the install. Some install, like a Stage 1-4 with a tune is done in one day, while you wait and you can drive the car home. A huge build like the ones we have been posting the last few weeks is done in less than 2 weeks for sure, usually less than 1 week. Sometimes we'll run into a snag or delay at the machine shop, maybe something complete custom etc. Alignment, corner weighting etc. Even with those things as long as we get the parts in before you show up, like we prefer to do, you are talking 2 weeks.
Not sure how many of you are aware but there are some serious problems over at Garrett right now. It seems as though their heads got stuck somewhere and there are a ton of turbos being held up. The 67 Trims are back ordered and have been for months now. It is holding up a lot of big builds for us. So more are coming, if we ever get turbos again.
The 67P will put another 40 whp on these 35R cars.
Why ONLY 8,000 rpm? I have on explanation, I guess because I am an amatuer is my answer. Looking at the graph do YOU see a reason for me to go to 11,000 rpm? I personally don't. The car was run higher during the process of tuning it and that run on the logger probably went to 8700 rpm or so. The dyno tells part of the story, the datalog tells what I really want to know. These dyno graphs are for you guys to see, the customer to brag about. I can street car all of these cars and make the same power.
I am just going to skip some of the other questions as I can't tell if they are smart *** questions or legit. Each car is different. Each customers goal is different. They make what they make. They are unsafe for the road with this kind of power and quite honestly, most guys that pick up a car like this are scared of it. IF something goes wrong (traffic, out of control, wet roads, dirt patch etc.) someone is probably going to die.
I wish I could take more guys for rides in cars like this, the proof is in the fright.
I took a few guys for a ride in my RS a few weeks ago. One of them owns a 500+ whp STi. He didn't look so good in my car, I looked at him and when I did he said, "I just threw up in my mouth, I have never felt anything like that." The bad part is, I am pretty sure he was serious.
The owner of the car we finished yesterday made 567 whp. He has MANY exotic and high hp cars. Owns a high profile race team. The car scared him, plain and simple. A 3066 pound street car with 560 whp on OUR dyno is one very freaking sick/serious machine.
Put it into perspective, once again (yes for the 1,000th time) my EVO made only 542 whp on our dyno and ran a 9.97 at 142.32 mph.
We are talking about EVO's here that are all capable of running 9's at well over 140 mph. 2 years ago the only car doing that was a gutted drag EVO on the bottle.
This particular car was at the shop a LONG time. The actual build took about a week. This was an unusual build as the car came to us with a problem and then it turned into a build that got larger and larger and larger. There were many decisions made and changed, money that had to be aquired etc.
For those curious and I have said this before too. What we prefer to do on ANY build, big or small is this: You call, tell us what you want, we take the order, we do NOT take your money. We get everything on the order built and have it all ready. Then we call you, ask you to bring the car in ASAP. The car comes in and we do the install. Some install, like a Stage 1-4 with a tune is done in one day, while you wait and you can drive the car home. A huge build like the ones we have been posting the last few weeks is done in less than 2 weeks for sure, usually less than 1 week. Sometimes we'll run into a snag or delay at the machine shop, maybe something complete custom etc. Alignment, corner weighting etc. Even with those things as long as we get the parts in before you show up, like we prefer to do, you are talking 2 weeks.
Not sure how many of you are aware but there are some serious problems over at Garrett right now. It seems as though their heads got stuck somewhere and there are a ton of turbos being held up. The 67 Trims are back ordered and have been for months now. It is holding up a lot of big builds for us. So more are coming, if we ever get turbos again.
The 67P will put another 40 whp on these 35R cars.
#33
This was our header kit.
The 2 liter will go to 10,000 rpm if you need it to, you probably don't need it to.
Also, RPM/boost, two largest killers of engines and making them wear out fail. So keep it in mind when you decide you need 50 psi and 10,000 rpm that rebuilds come more frequently. Don't ask me how much time as I don't know, I'm not seeing any engines come back to judge it
The 2 liter will go to 10,000 rpm if you need it to, you probably don't need it to.
Also, RPM/boost, two largest killers of engines and making them wear out fail. So keep it in mind when you decide you need 50 psi and 10,000 rpm that rebuilds come more frequently. Don't ask me how much time as I don't know, I'm not seeing any engines come back to judge it
#35
I took a few guys for a ride in my RS a few weeks ago. One of them owns a 500+ whp STi. He didn't look so good in my car, I looked at him and when I did he said, "I just threw up in my mouth, I have never felt anything like that." The bad part is, I am pretty sure he was serious.
#44
The torque looks pretty good for a 2.0L! Any idea how much more torque could be had with a 2.3L instead? Close to 500 ft/lbs on your dyno? I plan on doing an almost identical build but with a stroker instead.
Last edited by RenoEvo; Apr 26, 2007 at 02:00 PM.
#45
Stroker will make more torque for sure. I'd guess around 50 ft lbs., there is another thead, the one with the 610 whp car, the blue one, that is a stroker but with a 67 Ptrim turbo, the Ptrim makes less torque than a 35r.
Did another car today with all our stuff. I think Jarrod is doinig another thread on it. 530 whp.......
Did another car today with all our stuff. I think Jarrod is doinig another thread on it. 530 whp.......