Me and My Tilton love hate relationship
Jun 4, 2007, 03:39 PM
#16
I just wanted to give ya guys some feedback on the frustrations ive gone thru with my Tilon carbon clutch.
Positives:
1) I can no lift shift
2) Transmission syncros love it
3) Will take beating from 4wheel burnouts and lots of slippage off the line.
4) There are no springs so you wont pop them out from fast shifting and high rpms
Cons:
1) I'm on my 3rd rebuild last one cost me $700 and Tilton said after this one wears the clutch is done which will cost me a crap load for a new one
2) Do not daily drive this clutch as it will wear out very fast
3) Do not drive it up a trailer use a winch to pull ya up as it will wear the plates.
4) Do not hot lap the car after each drag race give it some time to cool down.
5) The plates are 7.25" in size so it allows you to shift fast and less inertia on the transmission but the plates will wear faster than lets say a 9" rps carbon carbon.
I did heat the clutch up so hot that i melted the rear main seal and boiled the plating off the pressure plate. I also turned the input shaft on my transmission black and blue! So we put in the evo 9 first gear and input shaft. Tilton said they had only seen on of there clutches do that and it was in a Baja sand truck stuck in the sand. Also all the guys at Tilton were awesome to deal with and took care of everything i asked for plus ship me the clutch overnight so we could race this last weekend
Positives:
1) I can no lift shift
2) Transmission syncros love it
3) Will take beating from 4wheel burnouts and lots of slippage off the line.
4) There are no springs so you wont pop them out from fast shifting and high rpms
Cons:
1) I'm on my 3rd rebuild last one cost me $700 and Tilton said after this one wears the clutch is done which will cost me a crap load for a new one
2) Do not daily drive this clutch as it will wear out very fast
3) Do not drive it up a trailer use a winch to pull ya up as it will wear the plates.
4) Do not hot lap the car after each drag race give it some time to cool down.
5) The plates are 7.25" in size so it allows you to shift fast and less inertia on the transmission but the plates will wear faster than lets say a 9" rps carbon carbon.
I did heat the clutch up so hot that i melted the rear main seal and boiled the plating off the pressure plate. I also turned the input shaft on my transmission black and blue! So we put in the evo 9 first gear and input shaft. Tilton said they had only seen on of there clutches do that and it was in a Baja sand truck stuck in the sand. Also all the guys at Tilton were awesome to deal with and took care of everything i asked for plus ship me the clutch overnight so we could race this last weekend
I couldn't have wrote this better myself
Congrats on the 9!!
Jun 4, 2007, 07:23 PM
#18
I've spoken with well known racers who have gone all season on a Tilton carbon/carbon, and when they pulled it at the end of the season it was still fine.
I'm wondering what exactly it is about yours that yields different results, or maybe it's in the technique?
I'm wondering what exactly it is about yours that yields different results, or maybe it's in the technique?
Jun 4, 2007, 08:08 PM
#21
But Greg did say he has seen 8 sec Supras that have gone a full season with little wear. 1. I don't see a 8 sec Supra running Friday,Sat and Sunday like i am
ive have averaged about 40-50 passes each weekend
2. He did say that the Evo is by far the hardest on there clutches they have seen so far. He told me they wish they could have done 3 carbon plates but there just is not any room.
Last edited by Paul Nelson; Jun 4, 2007 at 08:13 PM.
Jun 4, 2007, 08:11 PM
#22
Jun 4, 2007, 10:36 PM
#29
Most other Twins and tripples will never shift as fast as the Tilton. We could have saved our selfes some carnage and $$$$$ if we know how much it really cost of fix this clutch if we are stupid with it. When buying it evey one said $200 to rebuild and $800 if you really abuse it not $2700 if you really abuse it.
Even when we took it out last with the black and blue input shaft the disc looked fine just a gold colored PP cover and flat fingers with no spring left.
I think a Exedy tripple ceramic and dog box might be a cheeper option for people like Paul who what to race 100+ passes pre month and drive the car alot on the street.
For cars with out N2O on a 67mm or bigger, 4 wheel slicks on a 2.0 you really have to ride the clutch out to keep her in boost with out bogging. I know most ceramic twins we would put to much heat to them and warp or crack plates.
Even when we took it out last with the black and blue input shaft the disc looked fine just a gold colored PP cover and flat fingers with no spring left.
I think a Exedy tripple ceramic and dog box might be a cheeper option for people like Paul who what to race 100+ passes pre month and drive the car alot on the street.
For cars with out N2O on a 67mm or bigger, 4 wheel slicks on a 2.0 you really have to ride the clutch out to keep her in boost with out bogging. I know most ceramic twins we would put to much heat to them and warp or crack plates.
