Evo Green Dyno Sheet on 05 Evo with minimal mods
Jun 8, 2007, 03:11 PM
#48
I think running E85 would be a PITA. The need for bigger injectors, various tunes for different seasons, lack of availablity, lack of overall vehicle range on a tank of fuel, and price hikes that match pump gas don't appeal to me at all.
I don't want to sound like I'm hating on the green but that turbo doesn't appeal to me much either. Sure there are a few guys that are running 10s with them but that is a full on drag race tune with a shart ton of mods. If drag racing is their game I feel they have made the wrong choice.
Ask yourself.... in what area does the green really shine? Any answer is going to be convoluted but I think it may or may not be better for open track and that is if its has a kick **** tune and is run on race gas. On pump the 50 trim would be a better choice. For drag racing there are tons of better turbos and lets not forget nitrous which is really the best bang for buck. I also highly doubt the Green would be good for auto-x action as the increased lag and assoicated points would be a set back.
I have an open track **** of an evo but I dont think I would gain much going to the green especially on the stock ECU. It may make more power on the dyno but that's under a crap load of boost which most people don't feel comfortable with running for 30 minutes straight.
I know I'll take heat for this post. I expect it but I wont start a post war about it as its just my opinion. I know the green is a bolt on upgrade of 30-40whp given the right parts and tune but it simply doesn't make sense for most folks.
I don't want to sound like I'm hating on the green but that turbo doesn't appeal to me much either. Sure there are a few guys that are running 10s with them but that is a full on drag race tune with a shart ton of mods. If drag racing is their game I feel they have made the wrong choice.
Ask yourself.... in what area does the green really shine? Any answer is going to be convoluted but I think it may or may not be better for open track and that is if its has a kick **** tune and is run on race gas. On pump the 50 trim would be a better choice. For drag racing there are tons of better turbos and lets not forget nitrous which is really the best bang for buck. I also highly doubt the Green would be good for auto-x action as the increased lag and assoicated points would be a set back.
I have an open track **** of an evo but I dont think I would gain much going to the green especially on the stock ECU. It may make more power on the dyno but that's under a crap load of boost which most people don't feel comfortable with running for 30 minutes straight.
I know I'll take heat for this post. I expect it but I wont start a post war about it as its just my opinion. I know the green is a bolt on upgrade of 30-40whp given the right parts and tune but it simply doesn't make sense for most folks.
Jun 8, 2007, 03:45 PM
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IMO, both this and the original post are good illustrations of mismatched components. As the saying goes ... YMMV.
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Jun 8, 2007, 03:49 PM
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Ask yourself.... in what area does the green really shine? Any answer is going to be convoluted but I think it may or may not be better for open track and that is if its has a kick **** tune and is run on race gas. On pump the 50 trim would be a better choice. For drag racing there are tons of better turbos and lets not forget nitrous which is really the best bang for buck. I also highly doubt the Green would be good for auto-x action as the increased lag and assoicated points would be a set back.
I have an open track **** of an evo but I dont think I would gain much going to the green especially on the stock ECU. It may make more power on the dyno but that's under a crap load of boost which most people don't feel comfortable with running for 30 minutes straight.
I know I'll take heat for this post. I expect it but I wont start a post war about it as its just my opinion. I know the green is a bolt on upgrade of 30-40whp given the right parts and tune but it simply doesn't make sense for most folks.
I have an open track **** of an evo but I dont think I would gain much going to the green especially on the stock ECU. It may make more power on the dyno but that's under a crap load of boost which most people don't feel comfortable with running for 30 minutes straight.
I know I'll take heat for this post. I expect it but I wont start a post war about it as its just my opinion. I know the green is a bolt on upgrade of 30-40whp given the right parts and tune but it simply doesn't make sense for most folks.
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Jun 8, 2007, 06:55 PM
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My car has small 264i/272e HKS cams, ok.
What stock 16G turbo will still make 400 whp at 7,800 rpms and 300 tq at 7,300 rmps?
Do you think a stock 16g turbo will maintain a flat hp line like this all the way up to 8,000 rpms with this small cams?
I am very impress'd with the Turbo. Search and you won't find a 16G with this power band. It is not possible.
This Turbo shines, and remember, it is the smallest current Turbo upgrade for the Evo. Not bad for a little rascal, is it?
That is my .02 on the Green.
Jun 8, 2007, 07:09 PM
#55
I would like to add, that this Dyno plot was the last run of the night, after over one hour of tuning and over 20 pulls. The car was even getting hot. Water temperatures were hi also due to the stress of pull after pull runing with no time to cool.
If the turbo was blowing hot air at 31-32 psi, and out of efficient range, it sure does not show it on the graph. It keeps making power despite the heat, humidity, and abuse.
Simply, a great little Turbo.
Thank you Mr. Buschur and FP, you out did your selfs with this small Turbo,
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If the turbo was blowing hot air at 31-32 psi, and out of efficient range, it sure does not show it on the graph. It keeps making power despite the heat, humidity, and abuse.
Simply, a great little Turbo.
Thank you Mr. Buschur and FP, you out did your selfs with this small Turbo,
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Here is mine in the wide scope...
Jun 9, 2007, 05:03 AM
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Looking at the above dyno graph......
That is increased lag. My stock turbo dyno chart may be much shorter, but my peak torque is at 3500 rpm. The evo green is much better than other turbo choices as far as spool up, but it would not help for most in an autox situation.
That is increased lag. My stock turbo dyno chart may be much shorter, but my peak torque is at 3500 rpm. The evo green is much better than other turbo choices as far as spool up, but it would not help for most in an autox situation.
Jun 9, 2007, 08:47 AM
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Al so if I didnt want to run meth/alcy/race gas what would be the better choice in Turbo's? The 20g IX turbo like gruppe-S sells? I had planned on going to a green but now I am not so sure. I have:
DC Downpipe w/ decat
Magnaflow CBE
Buschur intake
Buschur ported stock o2
Helix 272 cams
Injen LICP
255lph FP
Sorry if anyone thinks this is off topic.
DC Downpipe w/ decat
Magnaflow CBE
Buschur intake
Buschur ported stock o2
Helix 272 cams
Injen LICP
255lph FP
Sorry if anyone thinks this is off topic.