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Old Jun 30, 2007, 11:21 PM
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93oct vs 93+100%METH VS 100oct+100%meth VS C16 racegas ??

i want 500+whp on this setup.. i want to know the different power levels of each fuel with this type of setup. i will have it tuned for max boost able to run on each setup.. what have you guys and tuners experianced with each fuel on simular mods....

3076r garrett bb turbo
meth kit running 100%meth
ported throttle body
ported intake manifold
1000cc injectors
3.0 tbe
fmic
upper?lower icp
forge mbc
forge RS bov
walbro 255 f/p
arp head studs
intake
revolver cams
c.o.p. ignition

there is many more mods but thats the quick mod list with inportent mods. im still on stock ecu.. i want 500+whp on this setup. i know a bigger turbo would be a better idea but i dont want one. this is what i got and want. what do you think each fuel would max out at???

fuel---------------------psi------------------whp
93 oct----------------24 PEAK----------410 PEAK
93+meth---------------?---------------------?
100oct+meth----------?--------------------?
C16 RACE FUEL-------?--------------------?

thanks for the info

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Old Jul 1, 2007, 07:16 AM
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anyone?
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My setup was as follows, all dynojet readings
93 @ 22psi 410whp
93 +meth & wastegate recirc @ 30psi 480whp

104+meth or C16 might yield better results, but the main point is that your pushing this turbo, as am I way past its effiency range. This turbo for me spools about 3200rpms and hits full boost (32psi) at about 4krpms. I should have went with the GT35R which spools not much later than the 3076. It would be better to do a 35r setup with your goal, as it stands now the turbo's life would decrease rapidly. Good Luck!
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i understand the turbo will be pushed far out of its range but still all im asking is how much each fuel will add over one another.
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bump for more info on different fuel power outputs
Old Jul 1, 2007, 07:12 PM
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I did 443 hp and 392 ft/lbs on a GT3076 with 272 cams, 3" exhaust, catless, FMIC, 780cc injectors, intake, injen piping and EMS w/ C16 on a Mustang Dyno......
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Originally Posted by 8URVTEC
I did 443 hp and 392 ft/lbs on a GT3076 with 272 cams, 3" exhaust, catless, FMIC, 780cc injectors, intake, injen piping and EMS w/ C16 on a Mustang Dyno......

ok what boost level. who tuned it... afrs???
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My 2.3+3076 made 490 480 on c16 at 30 psi tapering to 26 tuned by Douggie fresh.

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Originally Posted by scorke
My 2.3+3076 made 490 480 on c16 at 30 psi tapering to 26 tuned by Douggie fresh.

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nice. what dyno and is it stock ecu??? was this a safe or ***** out tune??
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C16 will make more power than 93/meth. I would THINK that 100 octane with methanol on top of that would match C16 numbers if not surpass them.
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Stock ECU TopSpeed's dyno jet, define safe and define ***** out.

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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
C16 will make more power than 93/meth. I would THINK that 100 octane with methanol on top of that would match C16 numbers if not surpass them.
I would be surprised if 100 octane and meth made the same power as c16.

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Originally Posted by scorke
Stock ECU TopSpeed's dyno jet, define safe and define ***** out.

Scorke

hum. safe i guess who be you casn strill make more power if tuned a little more agressive but its a good safe tune.


***** out i would say as safe but agressive as it gets.

mind saying a full mods list??
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Originally Posted by evilevo2006
hum. safe i guess who be you casn strill make more power if tuned a little more agressive but its a good safe tune.


***** out i would say as safe but agressive as it gets.

mind saying a full mods list??

Sorry to bust yoru ***** before, I just love it when people say I ahve a "conservative" or "street" tune or a "road racing tune". I know more power could of been made, could of ran more boost for sure, I know some timing was left on the table because I never ever ever saw knock while logging it on C16.

Vishnu Stage 3
272's
3" TBE
Walboro
780cc's
Buschur Deluxe FMIC
Custom LICP/UICP

Just about all of this has been replaced now.... the WG was recirc'd, the intake manifold was stock, I used the stock MAF aswell.

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Originally Posted by scorke
Sorry to bust yoru ***** before, I just love it when people say I ahve a "conservative" or "street" tune or a "road racing tune". I know more power could of been made, could of ran more boost for sure, I know some timing was left on the table because I never ever ever saw knock while logging it on C16.

272's
3" TBE
Walboro
780cc's

Scorke

no i know i understand. no harm done. thanks for your info. my goal seems to become a little far away.


thanks for your info


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