View Poll Results: What turbo kit?
Ams Gt42
40
47.62%
Buschur Gt42
19
22.62%
Full Race Gt42
25
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What Turbo Kit?
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Buschur quoted my friend over $30K for his one grand build and AMS quoted him from 75K - 100K...
AMS is outrageous. its just better to do it on your own and get some help from ppl that know what there doing and it will come out a lot cheaper. and it wont get publize a lot and you basically going to have a MONSTER sleeper. when your done. like im trying to do.
AMS is outrageous. its just better to do it on your own and get some help from ppl that know what there doing and it will come out a lot cheaper. and it wont get publize a lot and you basically going to have a MONSTER sleeper. when your done. like im trying to do.
Second,
You are comparing apples to oranges. Post both estimates up and you will see the difference in price. You make is sound like we are making 30K more in profit.
LOL man do I wish!!
Eric
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Just do the work yourself. I'm sure it will not take 30k to put down over 1000whp if you do the labor yourself. Buy all the parts, bolt them on yourself, and then when your ready, take it to AMS or Buschur to get it dyno tuned. You probably will end up spending only 15k instead of 30k if you go this route.
AMS quoted me at 63k
While working at my shop and buying all the parts I spent around 15k. Plus then you have a "custom kit" instead of a name brand kit
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Just pick out some of hte big components in a gt42R build without raw material and you are going to go way over 15K.
Thank you for the support. I dont think people understand how much time and work goes into a 1000hp 4cyl car.
Eric
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-Fully built block (welded and re-enforced) $4000
-fully ported race head with cams $3000
-GT42R+manifold+downpipe $3000
-built tranny and drivetrain (including triple plate clutch) $5000
-Full race FMIC $1000
-AEM standalone $1000
-Killer tuning $500
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Total---> $17,500.00
Its not rocket science. If you feel confident in installing these items, then go for it. People forget that countless 4G63 powered 1000+whp AWD dsms have been around for more than a decade.
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If you know what you are doing, it doesn't take much to reach 1000whp. Heres all the ingredients for the recipe:
-Fully built block (welded and re-enforced),
-fully ported race head with cams
-GT42R+manifold+downpipe
-built tranny and drivetrain
-AEM standalone
-Killer tuning
-Race gas
-Tires
Its not rocket science. People forget that countless 4G63 powered 1000+whp AWD dsms have been around for more than a decade.
-Fully built block (welded and re-enforced),
-fully ported race head with cams
-GT42R+manifold+downpipe
-built tranny and drivetrain
-AEM standalone
-Killer tuning
-Race gas
-Tires
Its not rocket science. People forget that countless 4G63 powered 1000+whp AWD dsms have been around for more than a decade.
Mark
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Nothing wrong with any of those choices, but I would lean towards this if your car is going to see any street time.
When it comes down to the work horse of the groupd, BR's turbo kit with the cast iron manifold is proven to make awesome horsepower, is half the price and BR's track record speaks for itself. They are all at the top of the Evo game....so any which way you go you'll be fully supported by plenty of research, tuning and proven performance. Best of luck
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If you know what you are doing, it doesn't take much to reach 1000whp. Heres all the ingredients for the recipe (this is for a proven and reliable dragster):
-Fully built block (welded and re-enforced) $4000
-fully ported race head with cams $3000
-GT42R+manifold+downpipe $3000
-built tranny and drivetrain (including triple plate clutch) $5000
-Full race FMIC $1000
-AEM standalone $1000
-Killer tuning $500
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total---> $17,500.00
Its not rocket science. If you feel confident in installing these items, then go for it. People forget that countless 4G63 powered 1000+whp AWD dsms have been around for more than a decade.
-Fully built block (welded and re-enforced) $4000
-fully ported race head with cams $3000
-GT42R+manifold+downpipe $3000
-built tranny and drivetrain (including triple plate clutch) $5000
-Full race FMIC $1000
-AEM standalone $1000
-Killer tuning $500
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total---> $17,500.00
Its not rocket science. If you feel confident in installing these items, then go for it. People forget that countless 4G63 powered 1000+whp AWD dsms have been around for more than a decade.
Not trying to argue but shouldn't there be a lot of other parts added as well. Like intake mani, injectors, fuel system, ignition, custom ic piping, radiator, axels and tons more? That $17,500 total is a low number if your going to do it right.
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Full Race all the way. There the only ones that use true twin scroll manifolds. There kits are very promising and Geoff is about to show us what his kits can do in a few weeks. The Full-Race will make the most power and spool the fastest and have the best throttle response. So if your gonna do it Full-Race all the way.
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Full Race all the way. There the only ones that use true twin scroll manifolds. There kits are very promising and Geoff is about to show us what his kits can do in a few weeks. The Full-Race will make the most power and spool the fastest and have the best throttle response. So if your gonna do it Full-Race all the way.
Our divided T4 manifold has yielded great results since it's introduction and has an impeccable performance record, along with every single manifold that we have built. A couple notables are Al Friedmans's EVO 8 that has run a best of 9.7@155, Norris Designs EVO that has 9.2@160 on drag radials, and Javier Ortega's full weight EVO that has gone 10.1@140something. All in all I am pretty confident in saying that there are more Shearer Fab EVO t4 headers gracing this earth than every other manufacturer put together.
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If you know what you are doing, it doesn't take much to reach 1000whp. Heres all the ingredients for the recipe (this is for a proven and reliable dragster):
-Fully built block (welded and re-enforced) $4000
-fully ported race head with cams $3000
-GT42R+manifold+downpipe $3000
-built tranny and drivetrain (including triple plate clutch) $5000
-Full race FMIC $1000
-AEM standalone $1000
-Killer tuning $500
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total---> $17,500.00
Its not rocket science. If you feel confident in installing these items, then go for it. People forget that countless 4G63 powered 1000+whp AWD dsms have been around for more than a decade.
-Fully built block (welded and re-enforced) $4000
-fully ported race head with cams $3000
-GT42R+manifold+downpipe $3000
-built tranny and drivetrain (including triple plate clutch) $5000
-Full race FMIC $1000
-AEM standalone $1000
-Killer tuning $500
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total---> $17,500.00
Its not rocket science. If you feel confident in installing these items, then go for it. People forget that countless 4G63 powered 1000+whp AWD dsms have been around for more than a decade.
Aside from the fact that almost all of your prices were about $3-4k too low ($20-21k is more like it), here is the short list of what you forgot:
- axles
- driveshaft
- IC piping
- intake manifold & throttle body
- exhaust
- suspension
- roll cage
- seat
- harness
- tires
- wheels
- fuel system
- The other half of the AEM (yeah, $1000 does not buy everything you need to tune for 1000hp)
- The rest of the tune. If you think you can get a 1000hp tune that won't blow up for $500 ... you're nuts.
That's about $12-15,000 MORE right there and you haven't even installed it yet! Plus I'm sure I forgot at least a couple of things. So that would be about $35k just in raw parts if you were conservative in your build.
Last edited by jbrown; Jul 13, 2007 at 08:17 AM.