JUN cams vs HKS cams
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JUN cams vs HKS cams
if they are the same sizes, would the Jun cams make the same power as the HKS cams? they are half the price?
-shahul
plus can someone please tell me the major differances on the 264 vs 272?
-shahul
plus can someone please tell me the major differances on the 264 vs 272?
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JUN cams are better as the lift is higher. 10.8 instead of 10.2 or so for HKS. 272 has obviously higher duration, so idle wont be as good as with 264, and the difference in performance is negligeable unless you go very high power (over 450 bhp).
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They are the same only in duration, which is a measure in degrees (out of 360) during which they act upon the valve. The actual total valve lift, where they start to lift the valve in relation to the crankshaft rotation (advance), and how quickly they raise/lower the valve during that time are likely very very different. All of these factors of a cam profile have a major effect on the actual power curve produced by the cam.
Cam grinding is a much a function of art as science... so you normally pay for the ones that have the right stuff, compared to WAG ones.
Cam grinding is a much a function of art as science... so you normally pay for the ones that have the right stuff, compared to WAG ones.
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Stock cam specs are as follows:
Duration: intake 260 exhaust 256 Lift: intake 10.00 exhaust 10.00 center angle: intake 109 exhaust 110
HKS cam specs:
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 10.3 both center angle: 105 both
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 9.8 both center angle: 111 both
Duration: intake 260 exhaust 256 Lift: intake 10.00 exhaust 10.00 center angle: intake 109 exhaust 110
HKS cam specs:
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 10.3 both center angle: 105 both
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 9.8 both center angle: 111 both
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Originally posted by 2Cool
They are the same only in duration, which is a measure in degrees (out of 360) during which they act upon the valve. The actual total valve lift, where they start to lift the valve in relation to the crankshaft rotation (advance), and how quickly they raise/lower the valve during that time are likely very very different. All of these factors of a cam profile have a major effect on the actual power curve produced by the cam.
Cam grinding is a much a function of art as science... so you normally pay for the ones that have the right stuff, compared to WAG ones.
They are the same only in duration, which is a measure in degrees (out of 360) during which they act upon the valve. The actual total valve lift, where they start to lift the valve in relation to the crankshaft rotation (advance), and how quickly they raise/lower the valve during that time are likely very very different. All of these factors of a cam profile have a major effect on the actual power curve produced by the cam.
Cam grinding is a much a function of art as science... so you normally pay for the ones that have the right stuff, compared to WAG ones.
..."ramp rate" is a common old school term... or the "art" of the matter...
#10
Originally posted by value
Stock cam specs are as follows:
Duration: intake 260 exhaust 256 Lift: intake 10.00 exhaust 10.00 center angle: intake 109 exhaust 110
HKS cam specs:
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 10.3 both center angle: 105 both
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 9.8 both center angle: 111 both
Stock cam specs are as follows:
Duration: intake 260 exhaust 256 Lift: intake 10.00 exhaust 10.00 center angle: intake 109 exhaust 110
HKS cam specs:
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 10.3 both center angle: 105 both
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 9.8 both center angle: 111 both
ANGLE LIFT
66 (264) 10.5 Racing valve spring required.
68 (272) 10.8 Racing valve spring required
#11
Originally posted by value
Stock cam specs are as follows:
Duration: intake 260 exhaust 256 Lift: intake 10.00 exhaust 10.00 center angle: intake 109 exhaust 110
HKS cam specs:
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 10.3 both center angle: 105 both
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 9.8 both center angle: 111 both
Stock cam specs are as follows:
Duration: intake 260 exhaust 256 Lift: intake 10.00 exhaust 10.00 center angle: intake 109 exhaust 110
HKS cam specs:
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 10.3 both center angle: 105 both
Duration: intake 264 exhaust 272 Lift: 9.8 both center angle: 111 both
What are the #s 10.3 both center angle?? im familiar with cams just never seen that # on my stangs cam specs
#12
I was looking through Takakaira and it appears that HKS makes two different version of each of the 264 and 272 intake and exhaust cams.
Duration......Lift
264 in..........10.3
264 ex..........9.8
272 in..........10.3
272 ex..........9.8
264 in..........10.8
264 ex.........10.2
272 in..........10.8
272 ex.........10.2
Can anyone confirm this?
Duration......Lift
264 in..........10.3
264 ex..........9.8
272 in..........10.3
272 ex..........9.8
264 in..........10.8
264 ex.........10.2
272 in..........10.8
272 ex.........10.2
Can anyone confirm this?
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#14
Your right I read my HKS catalog wrong. Here are the correct cam specs:
Intake Cams:
264 duration 10.3 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM001
272 duration 10.8 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM003
Exhaust Cams:
264 duration 10.2 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM002
272 duration 10.2 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM004
Sorry for the mixup. These are the cams listed for our model EVO others are also made but for earlier models (2202) part #'s.
Intake Cams:
264 duration 10.3 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM001
272 duration 10.8 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM003
Exhaust Cams:
264 duration 10.2 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM002
272 duration 10.2 lift angle 110 HKS part # 22002-AM004
Sorry for the mixup. These are the cams listed for our model EVO others are also made but for earlier models (2202) part #'s.