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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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so if you take a garrett .63 housing, and a pte .63 housing, which will flow more? i didn't know pte opened up the a/r of the housing.........let me check, nope...they're the same.
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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Guess until you do a back to back dyno and show the results your assumptions are just as good as mine.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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lol.
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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lol this is ridiculous don't thread jack unless you have some good advice or evidence , other than your pics that are about as detailed as a 5th graders pop up book
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by under_boost
and from your experiences, you have seen some advantage's in power/reliability from garrett to pte on a 50trim? i'll tell you no, since pte is a garrett performance center. get over it dude. i've ran t-netics, garrett, pte. at the end of the day, i only care about the quality of the chra, the effeciency of the wheels, and what options are available to me. i don't pay for housings because i want to reward someone for making a more detailed rust collector.

as for which pte turbo i run, one of the BIG ones.
o'damn. guess what turbo it's sitting beside? you guessed it, a 50trim. i suppose i should jump and cheer "look at how detailed my housings are!!!"



is this where I STFU, or you?

sorry if it comes out blunt, i have no way of sugar coating things.
I'm speechless... I'm puzzled at how my intentions to help out can be met with such hostility.

As much as you think its fun to prove a "vendor" wrong, this is what I do this everyday for a living. I've been a PTE customer since 2000, when Harry still personally picked up the phone and first started doing import applications. My first turbo from PTE was a TE60 designed for a buick.

While I am a Precision customer and reseller, my opinions are not financially motivated. I could just as easy sell a straight Garrett turbo, as my discount on straight Garrett products are also at the deepest level. Additionally, between the two 50 trim BB turbos, either direct from Garrett or Precision, the price actually comes out to be the same, so I don't see how you can claim I am overselling a fancy turbo to a customer.

You are comparing two completely different turbos (PT67 S housing T4 vs some TO4E 5 bolt variant) in those pictures.

At the shop I actually have two 50 trim BB's. One direct from Garrett, and one is PTE. I hope you like the taste of crow because tomorrow I'll be posting detailed pictures of the differences.

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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no hostility man. if you're able to sell a pte turbo for the cost of a garrett, you're the man. yes, i am showing 2 diff turbos. the 50trim is a t-netics chra with sweitzer housings. again, if i didn't have hands on experience, you would never had seen me pop into this thread.

for the usefulness of my post, i clearly pointed out there is no point in spending more money on the pte vs the garrett because of the housings. if you would like me to take a step further, save the money on the garrett over the pte, and get it coated. then you will see some results.
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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LEt me break up the hostility with another real question. Besides the obvious, what if any is the difference between a 4 bolt and a 5 t3 bolt housing? Thanks for the help.
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EFIxMR
The PTE is actually a bit higher quality. The center sections are identical, but PTE cast their own compressor housings and exhaust housings which are a bit smoother and more detailed than the standard Garrett. PTE is a Garrett Performance Center, but does a few tricks here and their to make their own custom turbos.
Here's a detailed difference between the PTE and Garrett 50 trim BB turbo.

















The difference is clear. Are PTE vastly superior in terms of making power? I'm not sure, I've never tested the turbo's back to back, but at the same time I made NO claim that they were. In my original response, based upon my professional real world experience with these two products is how I formed my opinion that PTE housings are smoother and more detailed than the Garrett counter part.

Also I specifically wrote in my original post that they both contain CHRA's from Garrett.

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how many garrett housings have you seen crack?
Where in my original post do you see me making acusations of cracking?

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i'll tell you no, since pte is a garrett performance center.
I stated this exact fact in my original post already.

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You're willing to spend the higher coin for some housings?
They come out to be the same price.

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at the end of the day, i only care about the quality of the chra, the effeciency of the wheels, and what options are available to me. i don't pay for housings because i want to reward someone for making a more detailed rust collector.
How are the differences I pointed out merely cosmetic? Obviously they were done in mind to increase flow. How much I'm not sure, but your posts are nothing but assumptions.

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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nice post.
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Dam nice pictures, this will definetly help in deciding a turbo. Since you have those 2 turbos side by side have you noticed that precision builds their turbos a little on the loose side vs the garrett. The reason I ask is because I have seen 2 of the same in front of me before brand new and the precision had a lil more play?
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