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Old Sep 21, 2007, 07:12 AM
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Yup, thats the thing with the whole 30vs35R debate.

30R makes gobs more tq down low, however the 35R keeps it pulling till redline. I make peak power at redline pretty much, and peak tq at about 5500.

The difference between the 35R and 30R on pumpgas is about 50 whp at peak, and only about 10 ftlbs less tq at redline vs loosing nearly 200 ftlbs wiht the 30R.

The 30R is significantly quicker/more powerfull at lower RPMS but once your taking it to redline the 35R just pisses all over the 30r.

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Old Sep 21, 2007, 07:15 AM
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they took my car out to 7200 and it was basicly leveling off. but im still crazy impressed with the curve. its so meaty.

Old Sep 21, 2007, 07:41 AM
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Yeah you dropped about 100 ft lbs of tq or so correct?

When you add boost youll make about 500 hp and hopefully the same in tq or near abouts, again it will drop down near/below 300 at redline.

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Originally Posted by scorke
Yeah you dropped about 100 ft lbs of tq or so correct?

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since when?

on pump i was making 396whp 335tq @22~psi
Old Sep 21, 2007, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
we can happily supply you a single scroll 3076R, in fact after some test results we just saw, im confident our single scroll setups will outperform most of the other "standard" setups out there.

We've made some of the best single scroll setups for years, very few single scroll turbo kits will outperform ours. Our twinscroll kits are simply next level -- they are capable of more performance and offer tremendous versatility You can run a single scroll turbo on our twinscroll setup and it will be an efficient single scroll. You can run a twinscroll turbo on our twinscroll setup and get the benefits/gains of the twinscroll. You can run a twinscroll 30R, or 35R, and there are even some options that should be available in a few months for twinscroll 50 trims.

if you are interested in part-throttle response, twinscroll is what you want. A stroker will have a fat powerband, but response is ultimately dictated by turbine efficiency, and that is where twinscroll excels (because the turbine has to power the compressor)




its best to have an efficient turbo and manifold design, in conjunction with an efficient intercooler and charge pipe layout, along with a great fuel system and good tune, along with a good bottom end... it ALL matters. everything works together as a system, you cant pick and choose parts, you need to integrate them to work together.


The best thing you could probably do is ask the people who have experience with the twinscroll 30R.
Can you post up some graphs and/or other data?

Thx
Old Sep 21, 2007, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
since when?

on pump i was making 396whp 335tq @22~psi
From 5200 to redline, on meth.

On c16 I dropped 220 ft lbs of tq between 4800 rpm and redline.

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Originally Posted by scorke
From 5200 to redline, on meth.

On c16 I dropped 220 ft lbs of tq between 4800 rpm and redline.

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o yea. i got u now. i didnt know what u were saying. i dont think anymore power is needed espically with a stock block. i dont want to push my luck anymore then i am right now
Old Sep 21, 2007, 09:16 AM
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Agreed, get that ***** built

Just wait till you get used to the power........ i don't have enough$$$$$$ to support my need.... haha

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Old Sep 21, 2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Agreed, get that ***** built

Just wait till you get used to the power........ i don't have enough$$$$$$ to support my need.... haha

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yea me either. but im buying a house so there goes car **** for awhile
Old Sep 21, 2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
30R makes gobs more tq down low, however the 35R keeps it pulling till redline. I make peak power at redline pretty much, and peak tq at about 5500. The difference between the 35R and 30R on pumpgas is about 50 whp at peak, and only about 10 ftlbs less tq at redline vs loosing nearly 200 ftlbs wiht the 30R. The 30R is significantly quicker/more powerfull at lower RPMS but once your taking it to redline the 35R just pisses all over the 30r.
check this out -- competitors singlescroll 35R vs our singlescroll 30R on an evo9, more info to come on monday



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Originally Posted by brodienuchies
Can you post up some graphs and/or other data?

Thx
what are you looking for? ill share whatever i have
Old Sep 21, 2007, 03:22 PM
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Geoff, was that with a built motor revving out to 8K?
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DAMN!! Cal's car is making some sick power! finally backing up the amazing looks of the car
Old Sep 21, 2007, 11:37 PM
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Geoff how many twin scroll kits for the Evo have been installed on customer cars so far?




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