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Old Oct 10, 2007, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dexmix
this is pretty common with the VW r32 crowd. they use a FWD dyno to tune. they just disconnect the driveshaft. not sure how you would do this on an Evo.

and yes its true, the HP numbers are inflated when you do this. i've seen 100whp off at the 6-700whp level.


just use a street dyno, it will get you really close.
this is wrong. im almost 100% sure its done electronicly.
Old Oct 10, 2007, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
this is wrong. im almost 100% sure its done electronicly.
No. I don't remember the specifics, but it has something to do with welding the diff and swapping transfer cases with a different setup of gears inside of it. It is definitely not done electronically. There's no way of telling the computer to spin the front wheels and not the back wheels.

...that's if I understood the way you were trying to explain it through the use of electronics.
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
this is wrong. im almost 100% sure its done electronicly.
Old Oct 15, 2007, 06:09 AM
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bump for more answers
Old Oct 15, 2007, 06:15 AM
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Maybe Buschur should chime in since he used to do it on his FWD Dyno before he got the AWD Mustang one.
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Originally Posted by EvOcHaRgeR
Those aren't as accurate as I was looking for but thanks for the info!

Define accurate.

Someone already explained what dyno's are for. If you are looking for HP/TQ numbers, DLL is within 5% of "correct" dyno numbers. If you have a laptop, this is a much LESS expensive AND troublesome way to find out hp/tq numbers. IMO dyno numbers don't mean a whole lot...
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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Maybe Buschur should chime in since he used to do it on his FWD Dyno before he got the AWD Mustang one.
The way that BR and lot of other DSM shop along time ago before Evos, used to pull the tranfer case and install a Viscous Coupling Eliminator. All they had to do is pull the transfer case and install this sleeve. You also must understand that the DSMs only have 5 bolts holding on their TC and dont have an axle or center diff in them. Then you go the Dyno. There was also a car BR built at time when Tim Switzer worked there that dynoed at a touch over 800 whp just in rwd only that was still AWD(dont know how they did that). The car was owned by Scot Wegman. It had a custom water/air intercooler that was the intake manifold!! Sick car to say the least.
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also the only way you can pull your drive shaft and dyno in FWD is to have a welded center diff. If you dont, kiss your TC good bye.
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Originally Posted by whitey4d
The way that BR and lot of other DSM shop along time ago before Evos, used to pull the tranfer case and install a Viscous Coupling Eliminator. All they had to do is pull the transfer case and install this sleeve. You also must understand that the DSMs only have 5 bolts holding on their TC and dont have an axle or center diff in them. Then you go the Dyno. There was also a car BR built at time when Tim Switzer worked there that dynoed at a touch over 800 whp just in rwd only that was still AWD(dont know how they did that). The car was owned by Scot Wegman. It had a custom water/air intercooler that was the intake manifold!! Sick car to say the least.
Yeah, I looked at that also but they don't have one for the evo and machv is on back order for those things. Thanks for the input!
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Originally Posted by whitey4d
also the only way you can pull your drive shaft and dyno in FWD is to have a welded center diff. If you dont, kiss your TC good bye.
Yeah, i was also told about having to weld a center diff. Thanks for the input though
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good info.

i'll re-recommend the road dyno. from either excel, evoscan, or dll. theres even a new one in the ECUFlash forum that gives an instant estimate based on airflow. The numbers come so close to a real dyno its almost not worth going to a dyno except for tuning. dyno numbers fluctuate as is.
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