1mbrews8

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thanks for the answers guys. It seems neck and neck! keep the comments comming!

Burklow

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I've made this comparison before:

The 2.0 can rev to around 9k "safely", but the 2.3 spools the turbo 500 revs faster. But it can't go as high as the 2.0. I think to around 8k. Some turbos (eg. GT35R) don't make significant power until in the high revs, so it's an obvious choice for drag. Auto-x on the other hand demands torque early on and the 2.3 is a must for large, laggy turbos when a quick spool is vital for decent times.

I still haven't decided what I'll do whenever I rebuild mine. Leaning towards 2.0, because it is more reliable from what I've gathered.

GTVEVO

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you really can't go wrong but 2.0 just makes more sense on paper to me.

OKIX

my .02 is to have a built 2.0L with a smaller turbo such as the green or an HTA3065. This would give you all the torque for the street as well as Hp for the drag strip as well. This setup should have the ability to put you in the mid to low 10's aswell.

1mbrews8

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well i allready have the ets 61mm so I am going to be using that. If the only real benifit t ousing the 2.3 is spooling 500 rpm sooner vs reving 2000rpm more with the 2.0, it seems that the 2.0 is better. ?

OKIX

i think if i were you and already had the turbo I would probably do the same thing and go with the 2.0

shuttlegoose

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i mean its awesome to be like yeah its a 2.3 liter but if it really only is increasing spool by 500 rpms then you might as well keep the 2.0 Companies are using as much technology as they can as far as the hta models and twin scroll turbos so that you can keep the 2.0 and still spool up real quick.

BBS

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Why not a 2.2? A much safer rod/stroke ratio for a must les penalty on displacement.

crcain

I think... if you run a 2.3 you probably will make more than a 100 ft/lbs more torque. AND.... your car will make more power off boost.

It's not only about spool. Plus I think 500 rpm gain in spool is a tad on the conservative side in terms of spool improvement. From a 2 litre to 2.3 I wouldn't be surprised to see 600 or maybe 700 rpm better spool all things being equal.

kngnothg

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2.0 - 2.3 or or 2.6

2003lancerevo8

not on a 35R turbo.......

look at AMS Time Attack Car!!! did you read their article in Modified Mag?

2.3 35R

runing in the low 11's high 10's and still kicking the crap out of the competition on their time attacks.....

I know what I would do and did!!!!!

OKIX

On the flip side of that...

2.0L = more rpms
more rpms = 10.8's on a measly fpgreen

if 2.3L's were needed for the faster times im sure ams and buschur would use them on there drag cars too.

crcain

But I'd bet you were shifting at around 7k except for keeping it 4th to avoid shifting 5th right? So how exactly were you using the high rpms?

Even with a GT35R and a 2.2l... I think your optimum shift point would likely be around 7500 rpm.

So where are all these amazing high revs that you get with a 2l coming into play? PT67 or larger maybe. GT35R or smaller... I don't think so... except for 4th gear on the drag strip to cross the line... which honestly who cares about times unless your trying to break records or something.

For most people what matters is a powerband which makes the car a joy to drive.

OKIX

potential is potental no matter what the set-up is. We are not talking about shiftpoints here. However, now that you mentioned it....you could not be more wrong. I shift and about 8k in EVERY gear (1-3) not just into 4th. On a stock block the is high. On a built 2.0 you have the abilty to go higher. If it is called for.

Again, you are wrong on your statement on not needing revs on a gt35 or smaller turbo. Do some searching on the subject.

oh...you want powerband? I got your powerband.

CO_VR4

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Hard to argue with OKIX's dyno graph or his 10 second time slips