HTA35R-700whp/646ft lbs......Buschur RS
Nov 22, 2007, 10:34 AM
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dave, how do you like the 35hta compared to the 67p trim?? depending on next years rule book im wondering if i should give up the 67p for the HTA maybe.. i was told by a friend of ours that the 35r will 1/8th mile quicker and faster probably.. if the 35r can make 700whp it may be better all around..
just because one 35r made 700hp. does not mean they all will. i beleave many people feel a few things are being left a secret......
Nov 22, 2007, 10:43 AM
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ok maybe it's just me
You must feel like a politician sometimes having the peanut gallery here trying to poke holes in everything you do. Just remember most of the time it's just enthusiasts trying to figure what is and is not possible.
Nov 22, 2007, 11:45 AM
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Dave, do your A/Fs also richen up in the lower gears? Because the lower gears would have the same reduced load which would likely cause the same changes in A/Fs that you see on the dyno.
As for the drag car picking up ~20% HP on the dynojet, it probably has more to do with the typical dynojet capabilities. I've seen several say that the dynojet "error" starts to get high above 700-800 HP, the differences seem to be very noticeable up there. The differences in measurement styles of the different dynos is the real cause though so this idea you can add some percentage to mustang numbers to get dynojet numbers is ridiculous.
Nov 22, 2007, 12:08 PM
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Congrats Dave! The higher you get the better I feel about me getting a HTA35R.
If you can spin a 2.3ltr to 10,000 rpm then it should maybe equal. Maybe. Too bad we can't.
If you can spin a 2.3ltr to 10,000 rpm then it should maybe equal. Maybe. Too bad we can't.
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Nov 22, 2007, 12:14 PM
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Not sure what your point is. I could care less if I can spin my motor to 10k. You'd need a GT42 or similar size turbo to need those kind of revs.
Nov 22, 2007, 12:41 PM
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Well they aren't eqaul. At least you can stop spinning a 2.0 at 7500-8000 and see where the HP/TQ levels are, then do the comparison. But then you'd be cutting the 2.0 short of it's capability. You could spin the 2.3 ltr to 10,000 to get to the limit of a 2.0 and do a true comparison to see if the 2.3 ltr can make more TQ than a 2.0, but the 2.3 ltr can stay together that high. Since turbos like RPM, it would seem that the 2.0 would be the better choice to make higher HP\TQ numbers up top.
Nov 22, 2007, 12:52 PM
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Well they aren't eqaul. At least you can stop spinning a 2.0 at 7500-8000 and see where the HP/TQ levels are, then do the comparison. But then you'd be cutting the 2.0 short of it's capability. You could spin the 2.3 ltr to 10,000 to get to the limit of a 2.0 and do a true comparison to see if the 2.3 ltr can make more TQ than a 2.0, but the 2.3 ltr can stay together that high. Since turbos like RPM, it would seem that the 2.0 would be the better choice to make higher HP\TQ numbers up top.
Nov 22, 2007, 12:53 PM
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Nov 22, 2007, 02:02 PM
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From Page 1, TedB. The turbo doesn't use different housings than a Garrett GT3582 turbo. The turbine wheel is identical, the change is the compressor wheel. The compressor wheel, as has been said many times before, is slightly SMALLER than the Garrett compressor wheel. It has also been said many times before that the PEAK power with the Garrett GT3582 is the same as the HTA35r. Also, the topic of my thread says "HTA35R-700WHP/646 FT LBS" Nothing misleading about that.
not trying to upset the apple cart here, as we have two well respected tuners here saying the opposite, but is the compressor wheel on the HTA35R larger or smaller?
cheers
John
