Dave put up some pretty specific RPM numbers... and you're saying "almost" what is "almost"?

 

Well thats not very nice. Essentially your not letting your customers know what they are getting into buying this kit. And I don't see how it is redundant unless your dyno loads the car EXACTLY how the road does. Honestly what is the big deal to show customers how responsive this kit is ON THE ROAD where people DRIVE?



I just hate when someone loves posting on this forum, taking in all the adulation of their worshipers. Has about 5 x 10 page threads on his car, and then can't even answer a question of when the turbo makes 30 psi in 3rd gear on the road.

It's all fun and games until anything comes up that might not make the vendor look perfect or get more sales. Yuk.

 

alwaysinboost, yes that is accurate. Wanna race?

 

crcrain, let me know when you become one of our customers and then I'll look into the 50 different ways you want the boost measured. Until then YOU already bought your HTA and it wasn't from me. I don't have a log specifically from 3rd gear that I did on the road to meaure boost. I am not taking the car out just to get that specific log. In your last request it was for 4th gear, now it's 3rd. It has nothing to do with me looking good or bad, it has to do with you being a PIMA with the TOOOOO many request. Go log your car.

 

time to update the caption on the avatar David..maybe make it animated with the digits ever changing

 

Dave I'm not trying to be a pain in your ***. I'm just freaking curious and you have been avoiding the question making me ask a dozen times which is a PIMA! I still have no idea because you're only giving me dyno #'s which as far as I'm concerned could be very different once on the road.

As for me being a customer... well my close, close friend bought a shortblock and head from you and that was largely from my own advice and recommendation. I run your COP. I also bought a brand new HTA from FP. Thats about 10k worth of sales but whatever. And if I had to buy a motor again it would be from you. But what the hell should any of that matter?

Let it stand for the record ladies and gentleman. David Buschur is unwilling to produce data, which would show, how the all mighty HTA GT35R spools on the road not the dyno. And let it also stand, that it is highly unlikely a dyno will load a car just like the road, and therefore, the data which has been produced thus far, is not likely to be relfective of actual road driving.

 

Our dyno loads almost identically to the road actually. That is why I tune the cars on the dyno and don't require any changes when I get to the track. I just said I don't have logs from 3rd gear on the road.

You have an HTA, go out and log it and show how it works on the road. We are all waiting for your results.

 

Ok Dave understood. I'll give up this mission. Just so you understand, my intentions are/were essentially to use your car as a measuring stick. I just wanted to see where your well setup HTA car was making boost, so I could compare to my 2.4 car and see if indeed the 2.4 was doing what it should.


I have done this. It's in another thread. It's about 500 rpm sooner which makes sense given its a longer stroke motor. By no means am I saying its any faster obviously.

 

only if you'll drive... no hired guns.

 

umm.. hey buschur... would you show a log of boost while driving on a saturday afternoon, while the outside temp is 54 degree and the humidity is 77%, while going down a 4.23% decline and a 7mph tailwind... turn the radio to a country station, then have the defroster on, but make sure it is the setting that splits the heat between the window and the floor,, have that two clicks from the right, while the heat setting is only three quarters of the way there, then have a guy weighing exatly 217 lbs sitting in the passenger seat, ( make sure the driver 190lbs) and put three bags of groceries in the trunk, and then make sure the car is blue, and the seat is reclined 6 clicks,... and the driver MUST wear a green bay packers hat...and then we can see how this turbo spools up....

hahahahhaaaa.. frecking hilarious!~

the funny thing is,. that guy already bought the turbo... and although he likes to argue with BR, I will say he is smart enough to know that no other place will build as good a motor as BR... and will buy his next one from him.. and recommends BR to his friends.. very interesting!

SO what does that tell you people?


also I would think a 2.4 would spool that a little quicker than just 500rpms sooner,,,
when did evo m get so many comedians....???????????

let it be known people..... I drive a civic Si, and don't even own a dsm anymore!!!
that means everything I say is wrong..wrong I tell you!! stop !! stop listening to me!! now!! go unread all this...go!@!

 

David's dyno, just like every Mustang Dyno, has a patented program called Vehicle Simulation. This program allows the user (David) to simulate the load conditions the vehicle will see on the street.....weight of the vehicle, aerodynamic drag, etc, etc. So if if you look at a graph of acceleration vs. RPM of the vehicle on the street vs. on the dyno, they will look exactly the same.

What does all is BS mean?? It means the boost and RPM numbers David gave you are relevent on the dyno or on the street.

But make no mistake....NO OTHER DYNO HAS THIS FEATURE....don't be fooled by idiots that say their dyno can do this test.

 

Your so full of crap it's unreal you know that? Do you even see other vendors that running 9's post this information? NO, NONE OF THEM ARE!! Dave tells more than most that's a fact, but noooo that's not enough for the spoon fed group they want full logs of every gear, run, timing, IAT's, tire pressure, barometric, and what DB ate for breakfast too.

Remember he also ran a 9.95's@142mph on the cast manifold what's that say? Curt Brown ran 9.50's on a AMS 35R what about that?

Get a life.

 

EXACTLY!!

 

You guys are funny and I appreciate that.

But jeesh is too much to ask what RPM the friggen turbo boosts at on the road!

Sue me!

I just wanted to make sure my 2.4 was making it around 500 rpm sooner. I hoped for more... but honestly there are so many things effecting spool I just wanted a rough idea really. On top of that, I do believe there can be a significant difference in loading on the road versus dyno. Just my opinion.

You remember those times by heart and your telling me to get a life

 

Actually, considering we have so many comedians on the boards, why don't you get a comedian in the car and THEN do the log? I think that'd be accurate, because we all know comedians are full of hot air, just like 90% of the people on this board.

Then you'd have an accurate log. And you drive a Civic Si, therefore negating any knowledge you've ever had and classifying you as a poorly educated person, who needs to be proven wrong by an SRT4 owner/convert to Evo owner who has conquered the world...the WORLD!!!

DSM, you're a funny dude. Couldn't help myself by chiming in.