It takes 100 rpm to hit full boost!! There is the answer!


















When you power shift

 

I can't understand why everyone gets their panties in a wad over logs. Everyone freaks out on here, lead by David, like this guy's asking for all sorts of different logs. It's really simple, log 3rd and 4th. That's what all of us are interested in. If you're not, you're a fool. This turbo is $400 extra over a standard 35 and according to Buschur, makes the same power. It doesn't seem unreasonable to want to have something to benchmark this extra $400. I'm sure we all want the same information, what am I getting for $400 vs. a standard 35R?

 

^^that info has already been posted multipe times. Why do you along with other people insist on bringing it up over and over again. Does the search function on this website not work or something!?!?!

 

that information has not been posted multiple times.... or at least multiple times that agree. You basically have 3 people that have shared their HTA results. crcain who isn't happy and has given details on spool, DB who is extremely happy and has given details on spool, and LT1runner, who is happy and given his seat of the pants viewpoint. Regardless, there are multiple claims on how quickly this turbo spools, and none of them agree. Go to the FP website and look at the dyno graph posted for the turbo. If you believe that, it spools faster AND makes more power!

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...de=NTFP3582HTA

I ponied up and bought the upgrade on what I consider "slim" information. I hope I'm not dissappointed. You can't fault people for trying to get a larger database of information before making the decision for themselves.

 

I have posted back to back dyno sheets from the standard 35r to the HTA 35r, do a search and you can find the charts and see the difference in the power etc.

You can then believe whomever you wish. You can believe me, crcrain or LT1. You can also go from the dyno charts I just posted from Marque's car.

I've said the turbo makes more low/midrange but makes the same power up top as a normal 35r. If you don't like that answer, get another.

I can't make everyone happy, don't care to. I have a reputation to uphold, lieing and selling s hit that doesn't work isn't my idea of a good time.

 

This rules. I get my panties in a wad all the time, it feels good against my taint.

Im with David here....everyone has specific requests and demands. Considering that he does some of the most thorough testing and tuning, and has helped bring us a few good turbos and TONS of good results, along with the likes of AMS, I can say that pleasing everyone all the time isn't possible.

Making the best of the information provided is a requisite of this sport. I spent tons of time beating my head against the wall finding information, time and time again. Getting bent because the answer is NO, is whats funny.....and funny is good. And as long as funny is good......Im throwing the BUNNY


I have NO idea what you're talking about. SO, heres a bunny.....with.....a pancake, on its head.

 

If that's directed at me, I'm fine with that answer. It would be nice to see others, like the Average Joe, repeat your results is all I'm saying.

 

For what it's worth, I've seen many Evo's on the track. Recently at Norwalk, I had the opportunity to watch, evaluate, see the et's and talk to the owners of many 35R's. At the track this weekend, it was VERY apparent that this HTA35R is something special. NO BS. I try to watch my opinions very closely, but in this case, all I can say is "pay attention to the video and listen to the motor". A well dialed in car sounds different and this one screams. On top of that, David and I had a conversation today about AFR's and I'm shocked at how safe the tune is. There's more power, easily, but David said he wants to keep it well into the safe range. "No need to go leaner". Me, I'd be leaner and feel good about it. The HTA35R will probably be our next turbo.

 

dubbleugly, the bottom line, as I typed somewhere on this forum, the average joe is not going to repeat what I am doing. He does not have the money, the drive, the desire, the driving ability, the time etc. My car is what it is because it is all I concentrate on. An customer can walk into our shop and get exactly what is on my car, every single part, no BS, exactly what I have. All you have to do is open up your wallet.

You cannot however expect to "duplicate" what I have if you buy some junk FMIC, a crap exhaust, have some douche bag tune it, not want to run C16 etc. You have to go at this 100%. You can't do the engine and then want the heaviest clutch you can put in it, the 20 pound savings on the Tilton makes a difference, the clutch is $4,000. You can't refuse to buy a set of rotors that add another $1500 to the build just to save 15 pounds (or whatever the price/weight is). You can't put limits on it, go all in with the best parts, best tuning and best driver or you will NOT duplicate what I have, end of story.

This is exactly the case with me and using Curt Brown for an example. He still holds the quickest and fastest 35r time, 9.34 at 153 mph. He was willing to go further than I am and he does and will hold that record for a long-long time. He spent the money, lost the weight and is an awesome driver.

 

With all the recent talk about twin scroll performance I'm really torn between the hta 35r turbo and a ts 4088r. Everyone says the part throttle response and all around driveability is much better with twin scroll, but the hta is only available in a single scroll hotside. Does anyone have experience with both? I'm curious how the single scroll hta responds at partial throttle/low rpms compared to a twin scroll 35r 37r or 4088.

 

An this turbo has a T3 turbine housing?

 

I was talking about spool rate improvements, nothing more. That's what this turbo is supposed to offer. I'd just like to think I can gain spoolup that's worth $450, without driving to Ohio to have you do the tuning to get me gains!

I don't expect the average joe to be able to do what you do, ever, regardless of how fat his wallet is. That's why you're freekin DB!

 

The HTA upgrade is to the compressor side of the turbo only. Any hotside that fits a 35R can be used. Finding a twin scroll hotside (with the a/r you want) for the 35R is the difficult part.

 

I already know this. That's why i'm asking for a comparison of driveability between a car with an HTA turbo (that we pretty much have no way of obtaining a twin scroll hotside for) and a similar car with a twin scroll 35r or 4088 turbo to get an idea of driveability between the two.

Also, what size hotside was used with the hta to make 700whp?

 

You'll see that soon.My car is at Buschur right now,I have everything dave has except the e-brake delete.