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Old Nov 30, 2007, 10:18 AM
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Another part of the equation is whether anyone else is running a MAF signal altering piggyback and/or different MAF sensor. These variables have a profound effect of the calculated load and can easily fall short or exceed the limit depending on the adjustments the piggyback is making or how the MAF Translator has been set up.
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Another part of the equation is whether anyone else is running a MAF signal altering piggyback and/or different MAF sensor. These variables have a profound effect of the calculated load and can easily fall short or exceed the limit depending on the adjustments the piggyback is making or how the MAF Translator has been set up.
Absolutely. Anything altering the MAF, even the stock MAF, can throw these calculations out the window. A mass airflow is calculated from the MAF readings, baro, and temperature. If the MAF reading is altered, then your load (mass airflow) will also be altered. You can still tune it like this, but your 'true' mass airflow and calculations will be off from someone else's.


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Old Nov 30, 2007, 10:37 AM
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So, how does all of this info shakeout? I think the engine is hitting 100 percent VE about as early as I could hope for. Does that appear to you also. How does this compare to other known dyno/log runs? I know were making substantial power, OKIX has a bigger grin on his face. But is anyone else hitting these 2 byte loads and if so, what turbo/boost etc. It would be interesting to see 2 bytes for some of the stock ecu 35R's.
100% VE? I hope you are getting much high than that! I think you must mean something else.. as a rough figure if you push 14.7psi, you would have a 200% VE...

heck, a good setup on a NA car can surpass 100%VE. a good intake mani, with well tuned runners ought to push 110-120%VE
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VE is also a combination of cams, head work, and COMPRESSION. You cant always have a motor that exceeds 100%VE when you have 9:1 compression.

9sec9 thank you for the response as it kind of looks like the information I was originally given by Smogrunner (well of us were) is in fact what happens. This brings me to my next point of suggesting as Malibujack had that maybe a GM MAF is in order simply because of the enhanced Hz range it is able to operate in.
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Originally Posted by 4G63DSM
100% VE? I hope you are getting much high than that! I think you must mean something else.. as a rough figure if you push 14.7psi, you would have a 200% VE...

heck, a good setup on a NA car can surpass 100%VE. a good intake mani, with well tuned runners ought to push 110-120%VE
I think your concept and definition is a little different than what we are talking about here. We aren't talking about the effective VE that a certain boost will create. We are talking about the VE of the engine at a particular RPM, without the presence of any boost pressure, etc. Just the simple VE of the engine at that RPM due to the setup, such as intake mani, cams, turbo hotside, exhaust, valves, etc. This is where 100% would be perfect VE.


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Old Nov 30, 2007, 11:14 AM
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Everyone, I appreciate no one beating the crap out of me today. I've lost my entire system here at the office and am having to begin a multimonth rebuild. It's only a loss of 2K per day, but who's counting. While I was in Ohio, complete power outage with batterybackup caused catstrophic failure, OS and all. So, I appreciate not getting hit from every direction with, "your flawed" or "why didn't you do this", or " I don't believe it". Anyway, you know what I mean and I am appreciative of you all.

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Anything special done to tranny and transfer case? Seems like a ton of power to be cramming through the stock unit.

I know you have the Juns now but do you have a link to the before and after dyno of your HKS mivec cams? (Thats about they only tidbit of information a daily driver can use from this haha!)
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I do have logs, but not 2byte loads, of the early dyno/strip logs. Also, missing is the boost levels. At least the known Mustang Dyno numbers are known and the logs possibly on those dyno runs. I still have all 200+ logs, but that might open more questionable variables than it would answer. I'll see what I have though.
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duplicated post while doing other things, part of the ohsheet factor. sorry...

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Sorry if this was asked before. What turbo elbow are you using? Oh I mean o2 housing is what it is called in the states.
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Did you have to close the gap at all on the stock plugs?
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Originally Posted by 9sec9
Everyone, I appreciate no one beating the crap out of me today. I've lost my entire system here at the office and am having to begin a multimonth rebuild. It's only a loss of 2K per day, but who's counting. While I was in Ohio, complete power outage with batterybackup caused catstrophic failure, OS and all. So, I appreciate not getting hit from every direction with, "your flawed" or "why didn't you do this", or " I don't believe it". Anyway, you know what I mean and I am appreciative of you all.
OT, but what are using for backup power. My company manufactures Battery backups of all size and shape and am curious. I know one of the companies we build for offers 25K reimbursment in the event of a catastrophic failure.


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