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Old Nov 28, 2007, 09:43 AM
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crcain, 9sec9 is on the road but he wanted me to relay the message that on spool up there was minor knock detected so he pulled timing to deter any further knock. Knock was not detected at peak torque but he didnt want it too. What he does is pulls the timing before the knock and not at the knock point. Hope this helps im just relaying his message. He's the brains behind it all. Im just the owner/driver.
OKIX, thanks for the reply.

I wonder if indeed the knock your pops saw was actually knock. I don't know how far to trust the stock knock sensor. I'll pester 9sec9 when he actually gets home

Must be great to share all this car stuff with your Dad.
Old Nov 28, 2007, 09:47 AM
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Must be great to share all this car stuff with your Dad.
Most definately. I think we both are enjoying the heck out of it.
Old Nov 28, 2007, 09:55 AM
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so sick
Old Nov 28, 2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 9sec9
hks-evo, sorry I missed the 30psi part. I think the 30 psi will be fine for the turbo, it's whether the tune and other parts are up to the task. The boosted air is going to be hotter at 30psi and at the wrong time/load levels, knock will probably rear it's ugly head. Do it all, or stay lower on the boost. 27-28 would be much safer with most tunes.
im also running 100 alky on 93 so 30 psi too much
Old Nov 28, 2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 9sec9

I have not posted the maps, I won't be doing anything until I get back to the office, off of the road. But I will give you some ideas. Water/Meth ratio is 20/80 by volume. The peak boost is 37psi, the peak torque timing at 3500-4000 (with rescaling to 450) is 16 degrees and 8000 rpm 320 cell is 30 degrees. The car has no knock, except on initial ramp up, and he max knock I saw (possibly because of starting the pull a little too low, about 2650 WOT in 4th) was 6 and falling immediately to 0. Nothing midrange and up. I can also tell you the AFR varied from 12.2 on spool up to 11.7 on top. Again, the tune is basically knock free. Final pulls I think showed 1 or 2 count on spool up, again I noticed that it only occured if I started a little early.


This is AWESOME! Thanks for sharing all the numbers!
Old Nov 28, 2007, 10:36 AM
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yep and stock rod bolts
So I would assume this means a BR stage 3 engine (ARP rod bolts included) smartass.
Old Nov 28, 2007, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8Emperor
Sick numbers man. Makes me want to go Green. All that torque has to be fun in a DD .

Keep in mind VP import is about 4x, if not more, than the cost of normal pump gas. Sure you can daily drive it, but it's going to cost you.

This is by no means a bash on the car whatsoever, just a little bit of reality for some people. People call me crazy because I use 100oct 24/7
Old Nov 28, 2007, 10:56 AM
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DB should post how much $$ to get from a stage IV to what the Okix car is. It is something I would consider buying. I know it needs a stage 3 block and head. Whats the cost on those together and what else is needed beside the Jun cams? That is a sick package, lets call it a stage IX...
Old Nov 28, 2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 9sec9
As far as finding these cams, I'm not sure, but you might call Jarrod or Nick at Buschurs to see if they can get some. I honestly didn't even ask them if they can get any. We never even discussed it.
Thank you for giving the info on getting in touch with JUN, I've already talked to them today and got the price with shipping etc. So I just have one more question: With a green and a stock head, do you think the JUN's will still outperform the Cosworths in midrange and top-end? FWIW I wont be running meth, probably will at some point, like next spring/summer.

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Old Nov 28, 2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by warp9
DB should post how much $$ to get from a stage IV to what the Okix car is. It is something I would consider buying. I know it needs a stage 3 block and head. Whats the cost on those together and what else is needed beside the Jun cams? That is a sick package, lets call it a stage IX...
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Old Nov 28, 2007, 12:16 PM
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This is by no means a bash on the car whatsoever, just a little bit of reality for some people. People call me crazy because I use 100oct 24/7
I should have never had you tune me for 100. I've been driving on it for the past 3 weeks...50 mile round trip commute

Way to go with the Green, BTW. Can't wait to see track times
Old Nov 28, 2007, 12:41 PM
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This is the dyno sheet comparing how the car was at the shootout when it ran 10.87 compared to how it is now.

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Wow look how much earlier the TQ hits. I am guessing that is all from the Cams.
Old Nov 28, 2007, 01:32 PM
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Jun IX cams are pretty nice I guess!
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I think it would be interesting to see a dyno sheet comparing DB's car with this car. Both cars have their respective turbos maxed out, should be a good indication of the strengths and weaknesses of each one.

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