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Dec 3, 2007 | 03:43 PM

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Am i blind or is there no turbo on the list? Like GT30 maybe?

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Dec 3, 2007 | 04:45 PM

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I believe the FQ400 uses a GT3540, but Im not sure. The amount of high dollar parts that are being used on the FQ400, minus the wheels....um....and the wheels.....can b e substituted for products, lower in cost and higher in performance.

Im sure if I tallied the cost of all those FQ400 parts, it would cost a fortune next to some decent parts produced by our favorite tuners and would outrun any FQ400.

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Dec 3, 2007 | 04:53 PM

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i have a kind of off topic question what dose "FQ" stand for?

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Dec 3, 2007 | 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nightferret

i have a kind of off topic question what dose "FQ" stand for?

It can't be said without going around the swear filter. Click this link to read the article and find out.
http://www.redlinemag.com/page/redli...shi_evo_fq_360

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Dec 3, 2007 | 06:33 PM

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f'ing quick...

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Dec 3, 2007 | 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by justboosted02

if your going to claim its an fq-400 project then you need to put on ONLY OEM MITSU FQ-400 PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

otherwise your just making an evo like everyone else's and its not special.

Well obviously! But who in their right mind would spend that kind of money on UK parts!

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Just stick the FQ-400 badge on it and call it a day.

I couldn't have said it better myself! I needed a good laugh

. Funny thing is I'm sure we will all run into some moron that will try something like that!

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Originally Posted by 3volut1on

Here ya go

Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 parts list:

* Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
* Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
* Omega Forged Pistons
* HKS Forged Con Rods
* HKS 680cc Injectors
* Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
* HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
* Motec M800 OEM ECU
* HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
* Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
* Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
* HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
* Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
* Ralliart Aero Mirrors
* Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
* Carbon Fibre "Sharks Tooth" Rear Vortex Generator
* PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
* Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels

Thanks for the info... but I am not interested... I'm beginning to think I named this thread incorrectly... Now if I could just change it to something that makes sense!

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Originally Posted by tvbf1

Maybe his taste is the FQ-400.

I think what he's trying to do is just get the performance of an FQ-400 (power, handling & braking). I don't think he trying to build a USDM FQ-400. He's just using the FQ-400 as the base or for reference.

Oh My God... finally someone who has read between and beyond the lines of my thread. Yes, I just want to build something close to it's spec... and improve certain aspects just to say.... I only spent such and such on it... yet it can perform as well, or out perform the FQ400. And yes I agree the 360 is probably the best one IMO.

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Am i blind or is there no turbo on the list? Like GT30 maybe?

Actually thats a good question... Before I buy a turbo and manifold... I really am in the process of researching the best one for the application. I want a LOT faster spool than the FQ400's, however, I also want something that will (in hopes) one day produce 500-550whp incase my thirst begins to grow.

Oh also.. I live in NYC, going with a test pipe IS an option, but I'll get jail time. I can risk it, but knowing the A-hole cops out here that were bullied through elementary, and now have a badge and guns..... I don't want to risk it.

Thanks for all of the support and feedback guys... I thought this thread was either going to bring a lot of negativity, or no replies at all! I guess forum lovers have changed these days!

I will DEFINITELY keep everyone posted... Today my dual pillar steering column pod came in, the innovate wideband A/F is going on the left, and the STRI Tinted Boost gauge (which also came in) is going on the right... will have pictures soon!

Mind you I really want to tackle the ECU tuning myself. I know I really should not, but I'm one of those idiots that like to tackle long tedious tasks on his own, only because when something goes wrong, I'm that much more aware of where it could be coming from. But I totally agree. Who knows... I may get it initially tuned by someone else, and then fine tune the knocks and A/F on my own. We'll see how lazy I am these holidays.. Plus, it sure is cold up here in NY now, we had some snow fall and I haven't gotten winter tires!!! anyone selling?

Talk to you guys soon!

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Dec 3, 2007 | 09:51 PM

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Just stick the FQ-400 badge on it and call it a day.

That would be GAY... Sorry Marlon

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Dec 11, 2007 | 09:22 PM

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Part 2: Surgery

So here are the updates.... All is installed, and my car is running DEAD rich... it took me 3 days to install this in my 2 car garage with basic tools

1 of those days ALONE was the friggin innovate LC1 + XD16 kit. I canNOT believe how picky the ground is for the LC1 unit. You almost HAVE to bolt it down to solid steel frame, or your engine block for it to even power on and send the XD16 gauge a signal. Otherwise you will just see: -.-.- Anyway.... So theres black smoke all over my bumper... and im bogging out at 6k rpm. (i did a quick pass in 3rd gear just to see what I'm dealing with. I think the majority of the rich running is my 750cc's spitting puddles on the pistons LOL.

As you look at the pictures below, note that the Invidia turbo outlet housing is probably the biggest housing you can find at 2.7" for the stock turbo HOWEVER it is the BIGGEST pain in the **** to install the darn thing. I had to shave down one of the studs that was on the turbo so that this housing can fit without the stud hitting the outside of the housing. you will see in some of the pictures what I'm talking about. You may think it can go on without shaving down the stud.. but truth is, not only will you not be able to get the leverage to tighten the nut, but you will more than likely have an exhaust leak. SPEAKING of which, I now have a minor exhaust leak. Possibly from the downpipe. I had to shave down the donut that came with the turbo XS downpipe (the inner circle) in order to fit it on the massive Invidia. It must have decreased its ability to seal, and now theres a small exhaust leak somewhere from that area of the car. Could be the turbo outlet itself. Not to mention>>>>>>>>>>>> This outlet forces you to extend the o2 sensor harness wires. (i extended the actual sensors wires, not the harness) I tried pulling it out of the harness but I didnt want wires lying over my head and header

at least its 2.5lbs lighter than stock.

The turbo XS downpipe was 5-6 lbs lighter than stock. The highflow cat was another 2-3 lbs lighter. 10 lbs shaved right there.

The injen intercooler piping kit is harder than you'd imagine to put in. You'd look at it and think that it would be harder to take the front bumper off. HOWEVER, the bumper is only 6 bolts, 2 clips, and 2 snap in clips that DON'T break (thank god) easily. once you take off that bumper, the lower intercooler pipe is 200% easier to install. note that if you are doing a downpipe, do the downpipe first. The lower IC pipe will get in your way otherwise.

Injectors were a snap, pun intended

high flow cat seemed to be a little short in conjunction with the turbo XS downpipe, I think it pulled my whole cat back exhaust in about 1 or 2 inches, (which will look good once I get the JDM bumper

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Fuel pump (under the rear left seat) was easier than it looked. Plus I LOVE the smell of gas

The STRI boost gauge was a snap.. MAKE SURE U READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. do not put the sensor facing up or to the side, aim it down. Your gauge will not work correctly. Has a brilliant warning light, and a quick switch that tells you your highest boost point since your car has been on. See pictures for where i mounted the gauge and button.

The LC1 + XD16 kit was difficult, but I LOVE where I installed the OUT port for logging your A/F ratio to your laptop, See pictures for location on the pod.

I ended up going with the injen MAF adapter, (was larger, even though the other looked nicer and was more polished)

The blow off valve (Perrin re circulatory RED like the valve cover) sounds GREAT. its an amplified version of the stock evo 9 MR BOV, but with a little whistle at the end. I set it to be fairly soft, hard seems to flutter, and its rather harsh on your driving when you are easing OFF of the gas.

I think after this tune (hoping for 360awhp) I'll get a set of high flow headers for the stock turbo, then a pair of 272 cams, a modest intercooler upgrade, arp head studs, and possibly a 20g titanium turbo. But I believe that will be after the brake and suspension upgrading.

I'm probably going to get my first initial tune done at turbo trix in NJ. and the rest myself. The programs run great. I'm still tinkering with getting the A/F input from the LC1. EvoScan is excellent. ECU flash couldn't be better.

Let me know what you think , here are the pics! any feedback, negative or positive is welcome (positive preferred LOL

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Dec 11, 2007 | 09:29 PM

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wow man............. thats quite a serious lil project you got goin there.... hats off to you! sounds like a lot of fun...

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Dec 11, 2007 | 09:37 PM

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Free up the exhaust, put some TEL racegas in there, turn up the boost, put the diverter valve on backwards, get a stiff WGA, tune it - and there you go, you'll be just as fast if not faster than any pumpgas fq-400

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Dec 11, 2007 | 09:51 PM

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diverter valve on backwards? why?

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Dec 11, 2007 | 09:59 PM

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It will drive like crap but the boost will actually assist it in holding boost

It will sound stupid (but better than any VTA rice) kinda like Star Trek sound effects, but it won't leak any boost at all.

Might self destruct too with continued use but this just for a temporary 3.8 sec 0-60 which is better than the FQ. Oh yeah, raise limiter to 8000rpm too

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Dec 11, 2007 | 10:15 PM

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I would have bought a Titek O2 housing. Better separation of the exhaust gases, and no exhaust leak.

The Injen IC pipes work if you cut off 3/4 of an inch off the turbo outlet pipe. Just retain the second rolled part of the out let pipe so the coupler doesn't blow off, and the lower IC pipe will fit perfect, and flow better too.

I would have also stuck with the stock Diverter Valve, for driveability and better performance.

Also, make sure you have good clamps. The one's that came with the Injen kit are alright, but if you're going to be boosting big, I would stretch for better clamps for that extra bit of reliability.

You should be really close to your goal. Good Luck

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Dec 12, 2007 | 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DSMorBUST

wow man............. thats quite a serious lil project you got goin there.... hats off to you! sounds like a lot of fun...

Thanx a lot man... I'm hoping the brake and suspension upgrading is as easy. I'd imagine tuning the suspension will take some time. I'm looking into circuit racing out in pennsylvania for that.

For the suspension (semi street/race setup): I'm looking at Tein mono flex. Adjustable height (without adjusting the spring rate). Adjustable spring rate, and adjustable dampening. Then I'll get the camber plates.
Bars: DC titanium (the lightest possible) for front upper/rear upper
Anti Roll: Don't know yet, I'm going to look into the weight again (I'm a weight reduction fanatic, even if it's a few pounds).

Also: I forgot to mention that to get that Turbo XS downpipe in, you have to remove two stiffener bars under the car. I guess I can replace it with the 6 point cusco stiffener.

Anyone have any bushing kits in mind that are beneficial?

As for braking, I'm just going to upgrade the fluid, and go with the big brake 6 piston brembo front, and 4 piston rear. I believe the FQ400 has 6 front/4 rear. I was looking at a close up shot of the FQ, and saw the front caliper showed three humps on one side as opposed to our evo's two.

Let me know what you guys think... or if you have any ideas that would be better while keeping bang for buck in mind.

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Dec 12, 2007 | 09:41 AM

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Not sure that you need the 750cc injectors... I would look into the stock dv valve and maybe into a 3'' 02 housing from buschur, titek, etc. Ported exhaust manifold would also help with flow characteristics. Cams are definitely not needed for your goal.

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