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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Here are a bunch:

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2006 Evo 9

Mods:

Turbo back 3" exhaust, no cat
GST Open air filter (stock rubber intake pipe)
Denso 720cc injectors
Walbro Fuel Pump
FPGreen turbo (ported hotside)
Ported factory exhaust manifold
Titek tubular 02 housing
ETS 3.5" FMIC
ETS hard Intercooler piping
Sun Hyperforce Ignition
Cosworth Mivec Cams
GM boost solenoid (Ecu-controlled boost)
Upgraded Springs and retainers

91 octane California fuel
23psi peak (1.6 bar), 20 psi (1.4bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



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2006 Evo 9

Mods

WORKS 3" turboback exhaust
RRE Rally Cat (test pipe, no cat)
FP Green Turbo w/stock WGA
Ported and coated WORKS O2 housing
Ported and coated turbo hotside and coldside
Ported and coated exhaust manifold
ARP Headstuds
WORKS 62mm throttle body
ETS 3.5" intercooler
ETS LICP
GST Open air filter
720cc Denso injectors
Walbro 255l Fuel pump
GM 3-port boost solenoid (Ecu-controlled boost)
Sun Hyper Force Ignition
Stock cams

91 octane California Fuel
24psi peak (1.66 bar), 20.5 psi (1.42bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



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2006 Evo 9

Mods

Cosworth Mivec cams
FPgreen with IX actuator
Denso 720cc injectors
Valvetrain upgrade
Headstuds
Fuel Pump
Hard Lower Intercooler piping
3" turbo back exhaust with no cat (HRS catback)
Open Air filter
Hallman Manual Boost controller (bleed valve)
Tubular 02 housing

91 octane California Fuel
24psi peak (1.66 bar), 20.5 psi (1.42bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



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2006 Evo 9

Mods

GSC S1 Mivec cams
FPgreen with FP actuator
Denso 720cc injectors
Fuel Pump
Nisei upper/lower intercooler pipes
3" Turbo back exhaust with no cat
HKS Kansai airbox with HKS 'flower' filter
HKS hard intake pipe
GM boost solenoid (Ecu controlled boost)
Ported factory exhaust manifold
Tubular 02 housing

91 octane California Fuel
24psi peak (1.66 bar), 21 psi (1.45 bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



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2006 Evo 9

Mods

3" Turbo back exhaust with no cat
Upper and lower hard intercooler pipes
Tubular 02 housing with porting
FPgreen with porting
Stock exhaust manifold with porting
Sun hyper ignition system
Denso 720cc injectors
Fuel Pump upgrade
Open air filter
GSC mivec cams
GM boost solenoid (ecu controlled boost)

91 octane California Fuel
23psi peak (1.6 bar), 21 psi (1.45 bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



Same Evo, 91 octane California fuel plus methanol injection
25psi (1.75 bar) peak to 23psi (1.6 bar) at 7200 rpm
11.5 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning:



Same Evo, 100 octane fuel plus methanol injection (unfinished tune)
28.5psi (1.97bar) peak to 24.5psi (1.7bar) at 7200 rpm
11.8 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning:



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2005 Evo 8

Mods

FPGreen w/ WOT porting
GSC S1's with Cam gears @ -1/-2
65mm WOT Throttle body
Forge RS BOV
RC 750cc injectors
Cold Air Boxâ„¢
Ebay open air filter
PPI exhaust mani (ported)
Works 3" 02 & Downpipe
100 cell metal cat
RNR 3" catback
Nisei FMIC & UICP
AMS lower IC pipe
Swain coatings
GM solenoid (ecu-boost control)

91 octane California Fuel
21.5psi peak (1.5 bar), 20 psi (1.4 bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



Same Evo with 100 octane fuel
24.5psi peak (1.7bar), 24psi (1.65bar) at 7200 rpm



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2005 Evo 8

Mods

FPgreen turbo with stock evo 9 actuator
Stock exhaust manifold and stock 02 housing unported
HKS 272/272 cams
HKS cam gears (set at +1/-1)
Denso 720cc injectors
Walboro fuel pump
ETS FMIC
Nisei LICP
Stock UICP (upgraded with tbolts but stock couplers)
3" catback
2.75" Espelir downpipe
RRE rallycat (no cat)
GST open air filter
GM boost solenoid (ECU boost control)

100 octane Fuel
26.5psi peak (1.83 bar), 23 psi (1.6 bar) at 7200rpm
11.7 to 11.5AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning


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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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searching for new data

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Here are a bunch:
Razorlab,

What are you finding, on average, to be the gains on pump gas for Evo 9s and Evo 8s (10.5) on the green vs. stock turbos?

It seems you deal with them quite often - your take on the value of this modification if running straight pump fuel? FWIW, we have 93 Octane out here.
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by anjapower
Razorlab,

What are you finding, on average, to be the gains on pump gas for Evo 9s and Evo 8s (10.5) on the green vs. stock turbos?

It seems you deal with them quite often - your take on the value of this modification if running straight pump fuel? FWIW, we have 93 Octane out here.
With our crap 91 oct, 25-45whp gains depending on mod level, 8 or 9, and health of the car.

Evo 8's with the normal bolt ons and cams struggle to make 300whp on our dyno. With a FPgreen they usually see 320-335whp. Evo 9's with a TBE, boost and ecuflash usually make about 290-300whp on our dyno and 325-340 with the FPgreen

I think it's a killer upgrade for 91 octane pump gas as it basically makes almost GT30 91oct horsepower with about 2000rpm more full torque and killer curves. It also looks 100% stock. On the 9's, I've seen the FPgreen hit 24psi at 3700rpm in 3rd. With 28.5 Psi I have seen it spool 24.5psi at 3500rpm and 28psi at 4000rpm.
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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dude..have you hacked into GST's server???hahaha

thanks alot for this very valuable post...i noticed the last coupla graphs you have posted are of evo8s'...which are making a significant amount of power over the IX's with very small boost difference...about 2~4psi...

also what do the numbers on GSTs' mustang dyno transfer to on a dyno dynamics?
thanks
Originally Posted by razorlab
Here are a bunch:

--------------------------------------------------


2006 Evo 9

Mods:

Turbo back 3" exhaust, no cat
GST Open air filter (stock rubber intake pipe)
Denso 720cc injectors
Walbro Fuel Pump
FPGreen turbo (ported hotside)
Ported factory exhaust manifold
Titek tubular 02 housing
ETS 3.5" FMIC
ETS hard Intercooler piping
Sun Hyperforce Ignition
Cosworth Mivec Cams
GM boost solenoid (Ecu-controlled boost)
Upgraded Springs and retainers

91 octane California fuel
23psi peak (1.6 bar), 20 psi (1.4bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



----------------------------------

2006 Evo 9

Mods

WORKS 3" turboback exhaust
RRE Rally Cat (test pipe, no cat)
FP Green Turbo w/stock WGA
Ported and coated WORKS O2 housing
Ported and coated turbo hotside and coldside
Ported and coated exhaust manifold
ARP Headstuds
WORKS 62mm throttle body
ETS 3.5" intercooler
ETS LICP
GST Open air filter
720cc Denso injectors
Walbro 255l Fuel pump
GM 3-port boost solenoid (Ecu-controlled boost)
Sun Hyper Force Ignition
Stock cams

91 octane California Fuel
24psi peak (1.66 bar), 20.5 psi (1.42bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning



-------------------------------------

2006 Evo 9

Mods

Cosworth Mivec cams
FPgreen with IX actuator
Denso 720cc injectors
Valvetrain upgrade
Headstuds
Fuel Pump
Hard Lower Intercooler piping
3" turbo back exhaust with no cat (HRS catback)
Open Air filter
Hallman Manual Boost controller (bleed valve)
Tubular 02 housing

91 octane California Fuel
24psi peak (1.66 bar), 20.5 psi (1.42bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning


-------------------------------------

2006 Evo 9

Mods

GSC S1 Mivec cams
FPgreen with FP actuator
Denso 720cc injectors
Fuel Pump
Nisei upper/lower intercooler pipes
3" Turbo back exhaust with no cat
HKS Kansai airbox with HKS 'flower' filter
HKS hard intake pipe
GM boost solenoid (Ecu controlled boost)
Ported factory exhaust manifold
Tubular 02 housing

91 octane California Fuel
24psi peak (1.66 bar), 21 psi (1.45 bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning


-------------------------------------

2006 Evo 9

Mods

3" Turbo back exhaust with no cat
Upper and lower hard intercooler pipes
Tubular 02 housing with porting
FPgreen with porting
Stock exhaust manifold with porting
Sun hyper ignition system
Denso 720cc injectors
Fuel Pump upgrade
Open air filter
GSC mivec cams
GM boost solenoid (ecu controlled boost)

91 octane California Fuel
23psi peak (1.6 bar), 21 psi (1.45 bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning


Same Evo, 91 octane California fuel plus methanol injection
25psi (1.75 bar) peak to 23psi (1.6 bar) at 7200 rpm
11.5 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning:


Same Evo, 100 octane fuel plus methanol injection (unfinished tune)
28.5psi (1.97bar) peak to 24.5psi (1.7bar) at 7200 rpm
11.8 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning:



-------------------------------------

2005 Evo 8

Mods

FPGreen w/ WOT porting
GSC S1's with Cam gears @ -1/-2
65mm WOT Throttle body
Forge RS BOV
RC 750cc injectors
Cold Air Boxâ„¢
Ebay open air filter
PPI exhaust mani (ported)
Works 3" 02 & Downpipe
100 cell metal cat
RNR 3" catback
Nisei FMIC & UICP
AMS lower IC pipe
Swain coatings
GM solenoid (ecu-boost control)

91 octane California Fuel
21.5psi peak (1.5 bar), 20 psi (1.4 bar) at 7200rpm
11.2 to 10.9 AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning


Same Evo with 100 octane fuel
24.5psi peak (1.7bar), 24psi (1.65bar) at 7200 rpm



-------------------------------------

2005 Evo 8

Mods

FPgreen turbo with stock evo 9 actuator
Stock exhaust manifold and stock 02 housing unported
HKS 272/272 cams
HKS cam gears (set at +1/-1)
Denso 720cc injectors
Walboro fuel pump
ETS FMIC
Nisei LICP
Stock UICP (upgraded with tbolts but stock couplers)
3" catback
2.75" Espelir downpipe
RRE rallycat (no cat)
GST open air filter
GM boost solenoid (ECU boost control)

100 octane Fuel
26.5psi peak (1.83 bar), 23 psi (1.6 bar) at 7200rpm
11.7 to 11.5AFR
Stock Ecu with reflash custom tuning

Last edited by dxbevo9; Dec 9, 2007 at 09:40 PM.
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dxbevo9

thanks alot for this very valuable post...i noticed the last coupla graphs you have posted are of evo8s'...which are making a significant amount of power over the IX's with very small boost difference...about 2~4psi...
Take note of the octane differences.
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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I'm getting a green in January. What boost level should I run on 92 octane? My supporting mods are:

-ARP headstuds
-680cc injectors
-Walboro FP
-BR 272 cams
-Forged Waste gate Actuator
-BR Intake
-AMS Intercooler
-Nisei LICP
-Nisei UICP
-Ported/Coated hotside, manifold
-Coated O2 housing
-TB exhaust
-UR test pipe.
-Summit Racing Oil cooler
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Take note of the octane differences.
thanks
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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whats 340 whp on a mustang quivlent to on a dynojet? like 400 whp? im lost.

i just dyno'd 363 whp on a dynamite dyno can sum1 explain, MD read less?
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarmacisback69
whats 340 whp on a mustang quivlent to on a dynojet? like 400 whp? im lost.

i just dyno'd 363 whp on a dynamite dyno can sum1 explain, MD read less?
Read post 19 for the typical gains going to a FPGreen on our dyno. We can talk till the moon collides with the earth comparing dyno makes to dyno makes to dynos in one state to dynos in other states.

For more data about our dyno:

100% Factory 2003-2004 8's Evos do about 190whp to 215whp. 100% Factory 2005 Evo 8's do about 210-220whp. 100% Factory 2006 Evo 9's do about 225-235whp.

A Factory stock 500hp Dodge Viper has done 380whp on this dyno.

Remember also our pump gas is 91 octane. Which is horrible compared to 93+
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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yes mustang dynos read less than Dyno Dynamics.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:06 AM
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razorlab, I see Denso 720's listed almost exclusively in your data.

What do the max IDCs look like on average?

I've got a green coming and I'm trying to decide which injectors to go with (94 octane).
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Read post 19 for the typical gains going to a FPGreen on our dyno. We can talk till the moon collides with the earth comparing dyno makes to dyno makes to dynos in one state to dynos in other states.

For more data about our dyno:

100% Factory 2003-2004 8's Evos do about 190whp to 215whp. 100% Factory 2005 Evo 8's do about 210-220whp. 100% Factory 2006 Evo 9's do about 225-235whp.

A Factory stock 500hp Dodge Viper has done 380whp on this dyno.

Remember also our pump gas is 91 octane. Which is horrible compared to 93+
Good data and dynosheets that you posted. Thanks for sharing
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky
iturrequi: You're not still running a catalytic convertor are you? I ask because your sig lists a catback exhaust.
I'm running a 3" testpipe. I'm gonna update my signature with it, thanks for bringing that up
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by iturregui
I'm running a 3" testpipe. I'm gonna update my signature with it, thanks for bringing that up
do you regret going fpgreen? was the difference significant?
or would you have preffered you went with something bigger instead?

thanks


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