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What types of turbo's will the PTE 780cc injectors work well with? I just want to know if these injectors will work with turbo's like the 50trim or 3076? I realize they'll be fine the Evo green which is also a possibility for me, I just don't want my injectors to hold me back if I install them now and get scaled and what not.

Any suggestions?

turbodreamz21

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they shoudl work becuase i ordered 780cc injkectors and i am going to run the BR 3065 kit which is bigger than both those turbos and ppl told me they woudl be fine

CrackerJackToy

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There perfect.

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iTrader: (30)

well then mine are off the market lol. Thanks for the help!

Spoolin18

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A set of 780cc injectors would be plenty for the 3076R!

turbodreamz21

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ya im gunan do 3065 and they told me its plenty so ur all set

DS-03evo

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I am using 780s on my 50trim.

KevinD

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780s on my 35r (but i'm running 1000cc of meth with it... and i stopped turning up the boost at 29-30psi because i'm at 95% duty cycle at 7500 rpm). DLL estimated about 500whp.

travman

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I'm going to run 850's on my stock turbo car (stockers are at 95% on current mods) - figure i will have enough injector for whatever i want to do in the future?

If your questioning 780's then just jump to 850's or 1000's and don't worry about it

Mellon Racing

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on 93 octane these were the results from my own car:

20g evogreen @ 26psi DLL 400awhp - 680's were fine

35R @ 28psi DLL 504awhp - 780's were at 120% IDC, AFR was 11.5 until 7000RPM where they moved towards the 12's regardless of how much fuel I threw at it in the fuel map.

35R @ 30psi DLL 534awhp - 880's are fine at 96% IDC with kenne bell boost a pump.

travman

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Since when is 96% duty cycle fine?

I have always thought and read that 85% is about the max you want to push an injector unless you want to live on the edge of failure.

Mellon Racing

iTrader: (38)

the IDC calculation isn't accurate....naturally you can't physically flow more that 100% IDC, that would mean the injectors at static and spraying all the time. Notice I mentioned earlier that I didn't begin to lean out until 120% IDC

EVOm is no different than any other forum...there's some old hands that said this and that a long time ago and it's been regurgitated through the ages. Sometimes you have to ignore the gospel and figure out what works on your own.

Just like when I was told you can't go beyond 680cc injectors on the stock ECU by a reputable tuner on this forum less than a year ago

JohnBradley

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Chris you have a PM. Interesting data that you have there as well.

dan l

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I've been doing the calculations manually on travis's car. He is flat out of injector. His car leans out up top (even with a proper pump).

I don't like pushing the duty cycles because when you do long hard pulls you really stress the coil to heat up and failures can occur. I try to stay under 80% but typically run up to 90% as I make more power than I intend. I've had friends run years on stock injectors saturated going down the track with no failures. I've also raced a turbo honda that lost a motor pushing the injectors pretty hard and he lost it after only a week.

I've been saying since the Ecuflash forum started a lot of ****. In the end it all turns out to be true. One of them is you can run any size injector just as well as a standalone and usually better than an AEM. I run 1000's on a cammed DSM with enough base fuel pressure that they look like 1200's to the ecu. It'll start and idle fine in freezing weather with a mini battery every time.

So yeah, experience says don't push injectors. Its your engine or your customers so I personally don't care, just saying.

You can easily run 1000+cc injectors on the stock ecu. I actually think 1600's would be fine.

Mellon Racing

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I think you missed the point... the calculation is wrong, hence we aren't really running over 80-90% on the cars I'm working with.