Ebraking with ACD
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People! It says it in the cars manual that the emergency brake disengages the center differential. This is done so that when you lock up the rear wheels, you dont fry all your diffs and end up with a 10k damage bill.
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It opens the diff, car is still 50:50.
An evo is 50:50 ALL THE TIME. Even if flying through the air upside down, with the e-brake, on a lift, in the mud, crashing in a street race, all the time, every time, always.
C'mon ifarted2, I know you know better.
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omg. No it does not. Please re-read my post on the 1st page.
It opens the diff, car is still 50:50.
An evo is 50:50 ALL THE TIME. Even if flying through the air upside down, with the e-brake, on a lift, in the mud, crashing in a street race, all the time, every time, always.
C'mon ifarted2, I know you know better.
It opens the diff, car is still 50:50.
An evo is 50:50 ALL THE TIME. Even if flying through the air upside down, with the e-brake, on a lift, in the mud, crashing in a street race, all the time, every time, always.
C'mon ifarted2, I know you know better.
Just because it was posted on EVOM doesn't mean that it is factual or written in stone. I am pretty sure Paul knows better than most.
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http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...001/13E_09.pdf
Start on page 3. I will be awaiting my apology.
The only way to move it from 50:50 is to get a different center diff with different planetary gears. I dunno why this is so hard for people to understand.
Last edited by razorlab; Feb 23, 2008 at 09:33 PM.
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On the 5th page (p. 65) it says that to facilitate hand brake turns, it weakens the center differential's differential limiting action when the parking brake is pulled.
As far as I can tell, in English, that means it basically becomes an open differential when you pull the brake.
Thus it is still 50/50 just without the limited slip ability.
Good find razorlab
As far as I can tell, in English, that means it basically becomes an open differential when you pull the brake.
Thus it is still 50/50 just without the limited slip ability.
Good find razorlab
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omg. No it does not. Please re-read my post on the 1st page.
It opens the diff, car is still 50:50.
An evo is 50:50 ALL THE TIME. Even if flying through the air upside down, with the e-brake, on a lift, in the mud, crashing in a street race, all the time, every time, always.
C'mon ifarted2, I know you know better.
It opens the diff, car is still 50:50.
An evo is 50:50 ALL THE TIME. Even if flying through the air upside down, with the e-brake, on a lift, in the mud, crashing in a street race, all the time, every time, always.
C'mon ifarted2, I know you know better.
I use to try and launch with the e-brake and all i would do is front wheel drive burn-outs.
maybe mine was fudge up?
You know your probably right ill ask Lucas in the morning also He knows much better than i would
Last edited by Paul Nelson; Feb 23, 2008 at 10:27 PM.
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The ebrake is just in the rear, that might be why. I can yank the ebrake and lock up the rears and skid for feet if I tried hard enough. I have done it in the snow a bunch of times and the fronts where still moving... diff probably hates us though.
The Mitsubishi tech paper is linked above.
This shouldn't be argued about anymore after that.
If ACD could somehow reconfigure it's planetary gearset to change front/rear bias like a transformer robot, people would have been doing it long ago instead of paying for upgraded center diffs with different planetary gearsets that changed the bias.
The Mitsubishi tech paper is linked above.
This shouldn't be argued about anymore after that.
If ACD could somehow reconfigure it's planetary gearset to change front/rear bias like a transformer robot, people would have been doing it long ago instead of paying for upgraded center diffs with different planetary gearsets that changed the bias.
Last edited by razorlab; Feb 23, 2008 at 10:36 PM.
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The ebrake is just in the rear, that might be why. I can yank the ebrake and lock up the rears and skid for feet if I tried hard enough. I have done it in the snow a bunch of times and the fronts where still moving... diff probably hates us though.
The Mitsubishi tech paper is linked above.
This shouldn't be argued about anymore after that.
If ACD could somehow reconfigure it's planetary gearset to change front/rear bias like a transformer robot, people would have been doing it long ago instead of paying for upgraded center diffs with different planetary gearsets that changed the bias.
The Mitsubishi tech paper is linked above.
This shouldn't be argued about anymore after that.
If ACD could somehow reconfigure it's planetary gearset to change front/rear bias like a transformer robot, people would have been doing it long ago instead of paying for upgraded center diffs with different planetary gearsets that changed the bias.
But everything you are saying makes sense
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All i know is we had it on a lift and we pulled the e-brake and the rears stop spinning and the fronts were still going. Than we revved it up and the fronts would keep going with the rears not moving at all.
I use to try and launch with the e-brake and all i would do is front wheel drive burn-outs.
maybe mine was fudge up?
You know your probably right ill ask Lucas in the morning also He knows much better than i would
I use to try and launch with the e-brake and all i would do is front wheel drive burn-outs.
maybe mine was fudge up?
You know your probably right ill ask Lucas in the morning also He knows much better than i would
but in any case, doesnt seem to smart to me...... but i just dont like to chance breaking things, call me cautious
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