If you only plan on running 26-28psi max, why would you even think about getting a 35r? You would get smoked by many fpgreen cars. Just go with a green and save the money if you're only going 26-28psi. Also, no one really has the answer to your question since full-race uses its customers as guinea pigs for their products since they work so well on Hondas. It was like 6 months ago that they claimed their ts 40r kit would outspool a 37r and produce more power up-top. So where's the puddin? All we have are Evodans results, I really hope they're compensating him big time for all the advertising he's doing for them since they don't test their products on evos before they release them or sponsor anyone.
How about maybe they actually borrow or get an evo to sponsor, test their products on a built car part by part, then show some hp #'s and trap times before releasing them and making claims a la 37r vs ts 40r, what a novel idea.

 

Haha. Full-Race did build these on an Evo and they did not just make them and send them out. I dont think a lot of people really understand the engineering that goes into these manifolds. They have something like 7 ME working on them, one I believe it is a prof. at ASU. Not to mention Geoff alone knows his ****.

I am sure Geoff will get on here and tell you more but I assure you when they say that a 40R can outspool a 37R I would believe it.

I am doing a 4088R Twin Scroll STI tomorrow in NM and I will post up the results of his 37R non twin scroll set up VS the 4088 TS Full Race Setup.

Mitch M

 

Cack tease. . . must you tease us so? Why not keep it secret till you get it tested and just post results instead of turning us poorer folk into raging insomniacs whilst we take out our anquish on the refresh key.

CURSES!

 

Lol. I did not do the testing but I know it is out there.

I will post the results tomorrow with the STi. Good to see as the car had a 37R single scroll .82 hot side. Now it has the TS 4088R with the 1.06. As soon as I have the results I will post them.

Mitch

 

You can laugh all you want, But the fact remains they make claims with no ACTAUAL PROOF ON AN EVO. I don't care if they have PHD's in engineering if they dont' actually test their products ON EVO'S before selling them to the public. We don't want STI results we want EVO fullrace ts results before we invest in a very expensive product. You know, the way Buschur tested the HTA for months with 150 mph traps before releasing it. That sort of thing, not just hot air and theory with dynos from hondas. If they would have done it the right way and could actually prove their #'s, spool and traps before selling their products, I belive more prople would buy them.

 

I think they said the GT40 TS would out spool a 35R

 

twinscroll 40R will outspool a singlescroll 37R

 

No question about that. My TS T67R outspools my previous single scroll 35R, and a 40R should do better.

 

[QUOTE=Full-Race Geoff;5361014]twinscroll 40R will outspool a singlescroll 37R[/QUOTE

Prove it. ON AN EVO. Didn't you say it would also outspool a singlescroll 35r? What about up-top power and trap time comparisons between your ts 40r vs single scroll 35r and 37r, what is your theoretical hypothesis?

 

LoL

 

Time to move on Bolio. We all know where you stand and so far you've added nothing but *****ing and complaining. It's actually very simple, if you don't like, don't buy it. No need to subject all us to you pissing and crying.

 

Pissing and crying? That's a real question I believe people want the answer to. How would FullRaces TS 4088R(Geoffs favorite) kit including everything down to the new bigger vertical IC compare to an equally built car with a HTA35r kit car like Daves and Petes bad bishes? We know they claim it "feels" better with spool and response, but what about up-top power potential and trap times comparing it to Daves 35r car that is built to the max and traps 151. What do you think it would trap Geoff, if everything was equal but it had the FR ts 40r kit instead?

 

Bolio,

A 4088R has a larger compressor than a 35R, and brings a bit more power potential with it. How much power one ultimately gets out of it (i.e. trap speeds) depends upon dozens of other things. That being the case, the only way to make an absolute A/B comparison is to use two different setups on the same car, same day, same dyno (or track).

We know that taking any single scroll setup and going twin scroll enhances response and spool characteristics, and this applies to a 4088R as much as it does anything else. It makes perfect sense physically, and it's been demonstrated on a variety of platforms numerous times. It isn't a new concept, and it works. After all, your EVO came equipped that way.

Anyway, because TS affects the 99% additional throttle positions in addition to the 1% the dyno shows, it really has to be driven to be appreciated. I don't think there is any easy way to demonstrate that through testing. You'll just have to consider the reports of those that have it for whatever they're worth.

 

Come on Bolio, just move on. You obviously don't like it, so why are you here? So far, there isn't anyone that I am aware of with a TS kit that is unhappy. So why do you have such a problem? Just go away.