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Old Mar 5, 2008, 01:19 PM
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Ask AMS and Buschur Part 1: 2.0l or 2.3l?

Would be interesting to have a series of technical questions asked of the two most popular engine builders on the forum. Maybe Buschur and AMS would want to participate? Here is the first question:

When a customer asks about a motor build, how do you help them decide whether the stroker or 2 litre is the better option for them?
Old Mar 5, 2008, 01:21 PM
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Multiple reasons.

Desired Power output.

Desired Drivability.

Desired Spool.

IMHO the stroker is the way to go for everything but an all out drag car.

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Having owned a 2.3 and 2.0 on a 37r turbo, I think both are equally street able. In fact whenever my current engine dilemma is solved I will be going with another 2.0. The extra rev capability really makes a difference.
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Great input guys. Let's hope AMS and Buschur come in and give us their views.
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For me I think the extra revs allowed with the 2.0 will offset the lag.

For those in the know, Which displacement will lead to the largest powerband on a 35R sized turbo?
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Imma keep an eye on this treat. as im finally having the funds to do my build and im stuck w/ this same ? on my mind. I know im going w/ the 37r but then idk cause theres a NEW 35r kit out there. But 2.0 or 2.3L idk yet..........
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2.3 makes a sweet road course motor and the 2.0 makes a great drag racing motor because it revs higher then the 2.3 which in turn will be more usable for GT40R and up turbo wise if you plan to go that big.
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i think it could turn out into a great informational thread about engines,, and i know these two companies can talk about this topic without sacrificing any propietary info
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Dave has said before that the 2.0l is better in his opintion. He says cause it will always make more power than a 2.3 due to it ability to rev much higher.

Dave I aint putting words in your mouth... just stating what you have said in your past posts about this

AMS... I dunno what they recommend, if I had to guess, I would have to say the same.
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Originally Posted by crcain

When a customer asks about a motor build, how do you help them decide whether the stroker or 2 litre is the better option for them?
have you considered the other stroker options,such as the 2.1 or 2.2
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2.1 destroked longblock.
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Hope we can hear the two shops chime in.

I think AMS might have a different viewpoint because I think I see a higher ratio of 2.3's from AMS customers but who knows.
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good thread....i believe the 2.0 is also better than the 2.3 for certain setups except for the road coarse...
however i think a 2.1 or 2.2 is better than both above
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Originally Posted by dxbevo9
i think a 2.1 or 2.2 is better than both above
If it's not too off topic for you to say so, I'm curious why?
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Originally Posted by hokiruu
If it's not too off topic for you to say so, I'm curious why?
i am not an engine builder nor a mechanic...however i am an engineer...

to put it in easy terms..going 2.2 will give you faster spool, and higher rev limit than the 2.3 yet maintain better (closer to 2.0) geometry...and the piston speeds at higher rpm are not rediculous like the 2.3


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