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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by warp9
my question is, how does it compensate for the freeplay area from the floor to the point of clutch engagement? When youre at the line you don't launch with the clutch pedal mashed to the floor, you find the area of grab and you launch from an area just below the point of grab. Not bashing, I love the concept!
on the v1, you hold your foot on the pedal to where you want, side step the clutch and it will travel its own pace.

on the v2, i belive you hold it again as well, but when you hit the button you take your foot off and it should stay at that spot.
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Update on testing tonight at ICS, it works well... really, really well. Just got off the phone with U2SLO after initial dial in. I'm sure he and Al will post up in the AM.
Good morning,after fine tuning in the controller last night,I noticed the big blue knob works good and kinda over adjusts either way.
So I found the sweet spot in between by moving it just in small increments till your dead on .I would recomend a smaller knob-non clicking one to dial it in.
The idea I had would be like the Hallman manual controller knob I used to have in car.
It is really nice and made 3 launches all were perfect,I started off slowly (OFF TWO STEP) and worked up to a full launch to get the feel of it.I felt so confident afterwards I stopped and just did a couple of launches on the way home just to test it,was dead on everytime.
Remember that start off slowly by adjusting it one turn at a time off the two step till you feel it locking up (slipping) then I back off little by little while makeing low RPM launches to work up to launching off the two step.
Oh BTW Jim the springs for my coil over's and sways you sent me are amazing,car is on rails.
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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gsnt, you are being fooled with the video. In the video the unit was not working correctly. The clutch pedal does NOT stay to the floor. This is why you think it is illegal. The clutch pedal is actually pushed to the floor and the button is then depressed. When it comes time to launch you simply pop the clutch as quickly as possible, so it is foot operated. This is simply a valve to keep the clutch from releasing to quickly or to slowly. So it is in fact 100% legal.

The difference between this and the factory restrictor is the factory restrictor is in effect 100% of the time. So each gear change there is some restriction taking place. This only works when you want it to on the launch, not on each gear change.
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
gsnt, you are being fooled with the video. In the video the unit was not working correctly. The clutch pedal does NOT stay to the floor. This is why you think it is illegal. The clutch pedal is actually pushed to the floor and the button is then depressed. When it comes time to launch you simply pop the clutch as quickly as possible, so it is foot operated. This is simply a valve to keep the clutch from releasing to quickly or to slowly. So it is in fact 100% legal.

The difference between this and the factory restrictor is the factory restrictor is in effect 100% of the time. So each gear change there is some restriction taking place. This only works when you want it to on the launch, not on each gear change.
That is correct Dave, In the video the valve was shut (all the way down),they were just showing the unit for the first time out.As you back off the knob counterclockwise to release pressure the pedal does come up that is where you fine adjust it to where you want it to start slipping,yes you have to push in the clutch and you have to release it with your foot.
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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very interesting product... definately would take out alot of variables when trying to perform a consistant launch. curious how it will be looked at by the sanctioning bodies... although no worry for me as I do not compete in any competitive series other than possibly a local shoutout event.

hrm and i would bet you could adapt this to other non-evo applications pretty easily as well.

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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 04:30 AM
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 04:39 AM
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so you don't get any kind of extra clutch resistance when the unit is not in use??? As if your compressing a hydrolic cylinder each time you press the clutch in or something??? BTW not even pretending to know the mechanics behind this thing just asking about it. If there is little or no resistance then I'd definetly buy one. I'm always paranoid about braking drivetrain parts lol 320 doesnt seem bad for reliable 60 ft times and less chance of breaking parts. Broken drivetrain parts add up lol Kinda pays for itself QUICK if you consider that.

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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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interested to see it in action
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Indy Evo
Johnboy1065 that is why I built it. No one is perfect launching any drag car and if they think they are their kidding themselves. I build parts for drag cars going over 320 mph and those guys make mistakes all the time so I wanted to eliminate as many varibles as possible when running at the track. I wanted to go and have fun 2-3 times a month at the strip and have a better chance of not destroying parts. Most of the people here do not compete in a racing series they just want to have fun a couple times a month at the track this is why David, Peter and I first started with this along with Big Al and George. It works just like a standard clutch when not activated. Pete will have the first launch by wire system next week and I'm sure he will let everyone know how it works. Thanks for the interest. Can you imagine this on an autocross car.
Not to mention that when you are accelerating off the line the sudden effect of huge G force on your body makes it very difficult to feather the clutch pedal in a very precise and controlled manner. Add the forces of accelleration and human error and stress into the situation and it is ripe for mistakes to be made.
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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$320 sounds like reasonable insurance on your drivetrain if nothing else. Now we just need a good spot to mount the button, it's too bad we cant mount buttons to a stock steering wheel. Maybe a shift knob like in Gone in 60 Seconds would work.
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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bro interesting bro. bro it seems the guys doin that compression test, bro were getting mad bro.
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by shunderwunder
$320 sounds like reasonable insurance on your drivetrain if nothing else. Now we just need a good spot to mount the button, it's too bad we cant mount buttons to a stock steering wheel. Maybe a shift knob like in Gone in 60 Seconds would work.
We actually did mount the button in the stock steering wheel - maybe Pete a/k/a Bad Bish can take a photo ?

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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Indy Evo
The button can be mounted anywhere
I know I was just saying it would be nice if the factory steering wheel had a way to mount the button & run the electronics through the clock spring. You could easily use a wheel that has NOS buttons, but I want to keep my stock wheel so maybee shift knob mounted button would work for me. The mounting possibilities are endless & diffrent buttons could be used I'm sure. I'm just brainstorming ideas of what will work best for me. Once these come out it will be nice to see all the places people will mount the button.



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