553 whp, 93 octane, just another day at the office.
Apr 10, 2008, 02:04 PM
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Cool stuff.
Will any Evo shop in the USA step up and create a pump gas car that can touch these Buschur cars? It's mind boggling domination. No shop in the USA is anywhere close. How can this be happening?
I predict within 2 months max we will see a shop start putting out more competitive customer cars running 93.
Will any Evo shop in the USA step up and create a pump gas car that can touch these Buschur cars? It's mind boggling domination. No shop in the USA is anywhere close. How can this be happening?
I predict within 2 months max we will see a shop start putting out more competitive customer cars running 93.
Apr 10, 2008, 02:10 PM
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So you intentionally leave all sorts of power on the table? Wouldn't the natural thing be to tune to det and then leave a good safety margin? I'm not for once moment insinuating you don't know what you are doing. I'm just curious how these things work.
Apr 10, 2008, 02:18 PM
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Dave, Just another day at the office huh? Nice work
unbelievable that these pump gas cars just keep making this amount of power
SloRice, any plans on getting it to the track soon?
unbelievable that these pump gas cars just keep making this amount of power
SloRice, any plans on getting it to the track soon?
Apr 10, 2008, 02:18 PM
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How much would some thing like this cost me? Feel free to pm me 
thanks
BR 2 liter with Crowers/JE
BR Stage 3 head
BF272 cams
BR ported stock intake
BR 65 mm throttle body
BR double pumper
FIC 1200 cc injectors
BR Race FMIC
BR tubular header turbo kit with HTA35r
BR COP ignition (yes, the one that works)
AEM EMS
thanksBR 2 liter with Crowers/JE
BR Stage 3 head
BF272 cams
BR ported stock intake
BR 65 mm throttle body
BR double pumper
FIC 1200 cc injectors
BR Race FMIC
BR tubular header turbo kit with HTA35r
BR COP ignition (yes, the one that works)
AEM EMS
Apr 10, 2008, 02:30 PM
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Look how these cars come from the factory with the pea shooter turbo on them ~23psi or so with tons of room left on the table via tuning.
Now add a more efficient turbo and i/c which will drop intake temps tremendously compared to a stockish turbo being strung out to the edge. With this in mind adding some extra boost to the equation, in this case 6 or 7 psi to reach the 29 psi mark via the dyno graph is not that huge of a stretch.
In the end the combo of all the parts together is what makes it or breaks it for overall numbers and a very good dyno curve like this car has. Alot of people can try and put ~30psi to a 35r car on pumpgas and tune it to live, ie not detonate, but will the numbers be the same in the end?
When it comes to pump gas many leave a safety margin there just for the very reason you don't know what you are going to get as far as effective octane on your next fill up. This is where experience comes into play, especially with the AEM EMS and it's knock control, as it just reads noise and you the tuner must deterimine what is just noise vs. what is actual detonation.
Apr 10, 2008, 02:48 PM
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When it comes to pump gas many leave a safety margin there just for the very reason you don't know what you are going to get as far as effective octane on your next fill up. This is where experience comes into play, especially with the AEM EMS and it's knock control, as it just reads noise and you the tuner must deterimine what is just noise vs. what is actual detonation.
If I spend that much money, I better not have a Evo Green keeping up with me!
Apr 10, 2008, 02:53 PM
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Its just the way we choose to tune pump gas cars.. Im not one for pushing pump gas to the limit.. Every customer we have tuned was very happy with 450-475whp on pump and then on c-16 ill push it wherever i feel it to be safe.. Its just the way we choose to tune cars.. BR has been int he game for many years and has alot more experience in tuning pump gas evo's..