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Old Apr 21, 2008, 08:45 PM
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400WHP+ or BUST

Hey guys..

I want to push more power and WHP on stock IX turbo,
I recently made 374whp, check thread on https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=340461

Im think dont want use Meth kits sooner.. i want true WHP on Pump gas..
Im think i missed something out?

should i get???
Ported intake and bigger throttle body?
Upgrade Fuel Injectors? 680cc to 1000cc?
ETS UCIP with Mini battery kits (snice im going rid of my Fujita intake and fujita UCIP)
TIAL BOV
COP or ingition (spark tech, HKS or sun automotive force)

something.. and give me ur shouts and options

before i going transplant full built motor and 3076 HTA turbo

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Old Apr 22, 2008, 06:16 AM
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Nothing you listed will give you an extra 26whp. Your limitation is the turbo. It can't push enough air efficiently to make that much power on a stock CR bottom end. If you want 400whp, get the meth. For about $400, its a no brainer.
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AEM EMS may help...and a good tuner..
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Originally Posted by mixmastermatt
Nothing you listed will give you an extra 26whp. Your limitation is the turbo. It can't push enough air efficiently to make that much power on a stock CR bottom end. If you want 400whp, get the meth. For about $400, its a no brainer.
He's right. None of those parts provide any real power gains. The injectors only let you run a lower duty cycle, but that doesn't make ~ 30 WHP.

I see two ways if you want 400+ WHP and don't want to run race gas:

- Meth injection. Not very expensive for the gains, but they can fail. Not likely at all, but it can happen. Be familar and do tons of research on the stuff.

- Bigger turbo. Have 20Gs broken 400 WHP on pump gas? I'm not sure. Hope someone can answer that. If they haven't, I'd recommend a 3076 or a 3065. Buschur sells them for about $3k which is cheap as far as turbo kits goes.

There are some O2 dumps coming out that should make a bit of power with the stock turbo, but their tests estimated 14 WHP.
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what about the gsc s2's
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oops i didnt see you already had cams
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Originally Posted by alloutDSM
what about the gsc s2's
I feel his Cosworth M3s are more aggressive than GSC S2s. He could go a bit bigger, but I don't know if it would be worth it. Maybe S3s? Both intake and exhaust are 280, I believe. He already has the upgraded valvetrain, but it is a lot of effort for something not much better than what he already has.

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oops i didnt see you already had cams
haha I guess I spoke too soon. Those are good cam suggestions, but I REALLY like the Cosworths being used.
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Go catless, 02 dump,remove muffler,maybe more aggressive cam..
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actually im going snow perforamnce meth kit.. and im try see how much more power without meth.. im try Ported intake and 65mm TB.. and try again.. im leave everything intake and bov and everything stock. and im might get AMS or ETS 35R HTA or 3076 (30r HTA)...

thanks for inputs guys!
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Chris just get some fic 1000's injectors and port out your stock manifold and TB. Dyno then see and if not, then updgrade. There i still some power to be had in your setup. If you dont reach it, go meth, then transplant this winter.
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or i possible Save all money to spend on 35R HTA.. i been debate between 3076 or 3056.... but i think 35R HTA is good for overall performance and more hp and everything..
i could be wrong.. so im still lookin and thinkin before i order or ill Talk AMS martin or ETS Tom
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electric water pump
ported throttle body
smim
meth
port the turbo




there is no need to upgrade your ignition at this point, ignition does not make horsepower, upgrade it when it becomes a problem
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smim is intake stuff.. billy ill talk u later more infos. and yeah.. then winter i should get 35R hta over 3076 HTA?
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