4" intercoolers, ETS or Buschur?
Apr 26, 2008, 03:08 AM
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@ yasir ,im running ets 4'' gr8 intercooler and im happy wid it but u cant go wrong wid any of them .
im intrested in the vsr if its still available than i need ur cell num .
im intrested in the vsr if its still available than i need ur cell num .
Apr 26, 2008, 06:22 PM
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the dust has settled and.....I find myself standing where I started off, still cant make up my mind. I DID PM Jrod yesterday, still no reply. I PMed him regarding shipping costs and whether if he could get me a quote from a cheaper shipping method. I guess ETS it is then since they have the time to listen to me and people dont seem to be complaining about their products either.
Good luck in the future with your build....since most shops aren't sitting on the computer all day long.
That is all.
Apr 26, 2008, 10:42 PM
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If you want the best performance available...BR is the way to go. Here is a log of my car last night at the dragstrip.
Peak boost ~29psi
Reving out to 8500 RPM
IAT's when I first got on the 2 step - 113*F
IAT's dropped down to 109*F in first and second gear
IAT's went up to 111*F in third gear
IAT's went up to 113*F in fourth gear
I was hot lapping the car and this was my 3rd run in a row. Outside air temps at this point were around 70*F and very humid. My first run of the night, the car had been sitting for a little while and IAT's went from 103*F to 105*F from start to finish and outside air temps were about 80*F and very humid.
I prefer to make my decisions based on data...some like to base it on marketing. Thats why some are slower than others.
Oh and as for customer service....I can send an email to David with a questions or data log and will usually get a response back within a few hours. I come from the Subaru world and that kind of response time is unheard of from any shop I've worked with. It's a welcomed relief!!
Peak boost ~29psi
Reving out to 8500 RPM
IAT's when I first got on the 2 step - 113*F
IAT's dropped down to 109*F in first and second gear
IAT's went up to 111*F in third gear
IAT's went up to 113*F in fourth gear
I was hot lapping the car and this was my 3rd run in a row. Outside air temps at this point were around 70*F and very humid. My first run of the night, the car had been sitting for a little while and IAT's went from 103*F to 105*F from start to finish and outside air temps were about 80*F and very humid.
I prefer to make my decisions based on data...some like to base it on marketing. Thats why some are slower than others.
Oh and as for customer service....I can send an email to David with a questions or data log and will usually get a response back within a few hours. I come from the Subaru world and that kind of response time is unheard of from any shop I've worked with. It's a welcomed relief!!
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Apr 26, 2008, 11:38 PM
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the dust has settled and.....I find myself standing where I started off, still cant make up my mind. I DID PM Jrod yesterday, still no reply. I PMed him regarding shipping costs and whether if he could get me a quote from a cheaper shipping method. I guess ETS it is then since they have the time to listen to me and people dont seem to be complaining about their products either.
Please send it again. I will be glad to help and get you the info you're interested in.
Apr 27, 2008, 01:30 AM
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These pissing matches are great arent they? Also consider the shipping cost. I'm in hawaii and Buschur charged me $40 to ship their intake kit which weighed no more than 5lbs. I paid a little more than that for my FMIC/UICP/LICP from ETS and that weighed a lot more
. Tom @ETS was willing to help me out on shipping by finding me the cheapest route. Buschur... none.
Like others said, both offer great products but its obvious that everyone who has dealt with ETS has nothing but great things to say about their support/service. To me that is a big factor when deciding who to buy from. Just something to think about.
Also I dont know if your on AIM but Tom is always on there answering my question at all hours of the day. That man doesnt sleep I think . That will save you a lot of phone charges for any questions you have. . It is now 1:30am sunday morning where Tom is at and that crazy **** is on AIM right now
GL on what you decide on.
. Tom @ETS was willing to help me out on shipping by finding me the cheapest route. Buschur... none. Like others said, both offer great products but its obvious that everyone who has dealt with ETS has nothing but great things to say about their support/service. To me that is a big factor when deciding who to buy from. Just something to think about.
Also I dont know if your on AIM but Tom is always on there answering my question at all hours of the day. That man doesnt sleep I think
. That will save you a lot of phone charges for any questions you have. . It is now 1:30am sunday morning where Tom is at and that crazy **** is on AIM right now GL on what you decide on.
Apr 27, 2008, 06:48 AM
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Although Tom is available at all hours of the week via instant messager, he often times forgets to sign himself off on Friday because believe it or not, he has a life too. So although he looks to be signed on even right now, he isn't actually there. As far as getting in contact with him and ETS though during the week, it is quite simple. 
So although he looks to be signed on even right now, he isn't actually there. As far as getting in contact with him and ETS though during the week, it is quite simple.
Apr 28, 2008, 12:58 AM
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If you want the best performance available...BR is the way to go. Here is a log of my car last night at the dragstrip.
Peak boost ~29psi
Reving out to 8500 RPM
IAT's when I first got on the 2 step - 113*F
IAT's dropped down to 109*F in first and second gear
IAT's went up to 111*F in third gear
IAT's went up to 113*F in fourth gear
I was hot lapping the car and this was my 3rd run in a row. Outside air temps at this point were around 70*F and very humid. My first run of the night, the car had been sitting for a little while and IAT's went from 103*F to 105*F from start to finish and outside air temps were about 80*F and very humid.
I prefer to make my decisions based on data...some like to base it on marketing. Thats why some are slower than others.
Peak boost ~29psi
Reving out to 8500 RPM
IAT's when I first got on the 2 step - 113*F
IAT's dropped down to 109*F in first and second gear
IAT's went up to 111*F in third gear
IAT's went up to 113*F in fourth gear
I was hot lapping the car and this was my 3rd run in a row. Outside air temps at this point were around 70*F and very humid. My first run of the night, the car had been sitting for a little while and IAT's went from 103*F to 105*F from start to finish and outside air temps were about 80*F and very humid.
I prefer to make my decisions based on data...some like to base it on marketing. Thats why some are slower than others.
Apr 28, 2008, 01:05 AM
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Eric, no problem I'll resend the PM. From all the PMs Ive got from different people, the BR race FMIC seems to have the edge when speaking quality. On the other hand, ETS seems to have better customer service all around.
Thanks for the input guys, its been really useful. One thing though, I HAVE YET TO SEE HARD NUMBERS ON THE ETS UNIT. I know people are using them and "ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH IT", but why no hard numbers?? NO pump gas records??
Im sorry I dont mean to diss the ETS unit, a LOT of people have PMed me and said how happy they are with their intercoolers, but its the 3rd time Ive seen hard numbers from a BR RACE FMIC. So much testing and factual data makes you really think wht the hell is going on...
Thanks for the input guys, its been really useful. One thing though, I HAVE YET TO SEE HARD NUMBERS ON THE ETS UNIT. I know people are using them and "ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH IT", but why no hard numbers?? NO pump gas records??
Im sorry I dont mean to diss the ETS unit, a LOT of people have PMed me and said how happy they are with their intercoolers, but its the 3rd time Ive seen hard numbers from a BR RACE FMIC. So much testing and factual data makes you really think wht the hell is going on...
Apr 28, 2008, 02:07 AM
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first of all, you gotta know what your coming into... ans FMIC will do depending on your mods/ future power with the car.... anything with 3.5" will do man!
ETS FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: YOU LIVE IN PAKISTAN????? Theres evos in PAKISTAN?
ETS FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: YOU LIVE IN PAKISTAN????? Theres evos in PAKISTAN?
Apr 28, 2008, 03:03 AM
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Yasir...with all respect to ETS (i know they make great products)....but i have Buschurs 4" race intercooler...it is a great piece...worked great and keeps intake temps very low...fits like a glove too...
so i think i am very safe to say...from my experience i will buy the buschur unit again and again.
so i think i am very safe to say...from my experience i will buy the buschur unit again and again.