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Old Jan 11, 2009, 05:37 PM
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That depends upon your definition of full spool. That could mean anything.
at about 38psi of boost.
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Old Jan 12, 2009, 07:35 AM
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i have a 2.3L full built with AEM EMS, 1200cc injectors and running single scroll HTA82. Now i want to upgrade the turbo to the HTA86 but i was considering the TS HTA86 from ETS. What do you think would the power difference be?
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I full spool at about 5000rpm with the HTA82 single scroll. With the TS HTA86 when do you think i should expect full spool? And the next question is who should i get the kit from?
38 psi at 5000 rpm with a 2.3L seems slow spooling. If you go to a TS HTA3586, you should be seeing 38psi by around 4000-4200 rpm. You should notice sharper, quicker throttle response as well.

As for Vendors, Full-Race has always been the TS masters, and now ETS has jumped on board.
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Old Jan 12, 2009, 08:08 AM
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Ill be done building mine in two weeks JAM 2.3L stg 3 JAM head stg2. AFI TS 35R 1.06. Ill have my own thread, with pics and vid soon.

So congrats to the owner on the perfect setup!

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So congrats to the owner on the perfect setup!

Evan Smith
My AFI TS 1.06 t4 setup is on its way too, so there will be at least 3 of us

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Old Jan 12, 2009, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
38 psi at 5000 rpm with a 2.3L seems slow spooling. If you go to a TS HTA3586, you should be seeing 38psi by around 4000-4200 rpm. You should notice sharper, quicker throttle response as well.

As for Vendors, Full-Race has always been the TS masters, and now ETS has jumped on board.
That is absolutely nutty and mental spoolup. I see 30 psi at 4500 rpm in 4th gear on an VIII gearbox with a single scroll 35r / 2.4.

I wonder if we will see Buschur do a twin scroll kit in '09. Now that I've seen Ted's results and others I think it's being proven you get about the same gains you do with a stroker as you do from going twin scroll.
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Old Jan 12, 2009, 09:28 AM
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I have a Evo 9 with a FR GT4088 2.2lt pulling 2.6bar at 4200rpm in 5th forgot to try 4th but theres only about 100rpm slower from mem. On UK pump fuel.

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Originally Posted by Mark S
I have a Evo 9 with a FR GT4088 2.2lt pulling 2.6bar at 4200rpm in 5th forgot to try 4th but theres only about 100rpm slower from mem. On UK pump fuel.

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Mark have you had it on the dyno? If so what were the figures?

LOL at the boost on pump gas.
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Old Jan 12, 2009, 09:36 AM
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Mark have you had it on the dyno? If so what were the figures?

LOL at the boost on pump gas.
Its John RS11 on the Mlr, 659hp and 580ftlb, I am going to run it again on the RR due to the cam not working and we lost ftlb and responce but sorted the issue with the cam moving and found the responce again .

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Its John RS11 on the Mlr, 659hp and 580ftlb, I am going to run it again on the RR due to the cam not working and we lost ftlb and responce but sorted the issue with the cam moving and found the responce again .

Mark
Are those DD flywheel estimates or engine dyno figures. On pump gas right?
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Are those DD flywheel estimates or engine dyno figures. On pump gas right?

Engine dyno.

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Engine dyno.

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The single scroll 35r's you do on the engine dyno normally make about 600 on pump... so the TS 4088r we are talking about now makes about 60 hp more peak power? But spools way better and makes more torque?
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Originally Posted by scorke
My AFI TS 1.06 t4 setup is on its way too, so there will be at least 3 of us

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I guess a total of 5 kits were ordered over the Holidays.

I want the most stock like response with the biggest gains... I think this is the perfect setup.

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Originally Posted by esevo
I guess a total of 5 kits were ordered over the Holidays.

I want the most stock like response with the biggest gains... I think this is the perfect setup.

Evan Smith
There we go

Kelfords/Vpro are going in too

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Originally Posted by Ted B
38 psi at 5000 rpm with a 2.3L seems slow spooling. If you go to a TS HTA3586, you should be seeing 38psi by around 4000-4200 rpm. You should notice sharper, quicker throttle response as well.

As for Vendors, Full-Race has always been the TS masters, and now ETS has jumped on board.
What do you guys think about an ETS TS with PT6262 compare to the HTA86?
spool time vs HP gains
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