Twin-scroll skeptics...
May 23, 2009, 11:03 PM
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that's funny, if you really got that from those two peoples posts..you must not have been reading as i was and they were bickering about who's been building manifolds the longest....who has a former customer of a different shop now saying the previous shop didn't know what they were doing...and to top it off, one shop says let me see the data and another shop says "man i got your data right here..."
May 24, 2009, 12:20 AM
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i think my fullrace t4 1.06ar HTA gt35r rocks on my stock motor. I mean it spools way faster and make more power than my old buschur kit. I have not seen any other 35r kit on the stock motor make 20psi of boost by 4k rpm in 3rd gear and the top end is great.
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Oct 16, 2009, 09:12 AM
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I'm curious why no one commented a few pages back (I know this post is old) on 555R's post when he said he overlaid a full race plot over a stock IX and they were identical until 4k rpm's.
If this is the norm....then why is it always said that the stock frame turbo upgrades are better then going GT35R on a stock motor. I don't plan on rebuilding unless I have to but it would make sense to spend the money upfront and have the ability to up in power if you want or use a turbo that is efficient with having to max it out to get 450+.
Am I wrong in my thinking.
So before i was thinking MAP SST/BBK FULL (rmoured XL)/FP HTA GREEN or Red (or rumoured black). Now I can add a Fullrace T4 TS 35R to the mix. I mean if it doesn't loose spool time then to me besides the price this is a no brainer.
If this is the norm....then why is it always said that the stock frame turbo upgrades are better then going GT35R on a stock motor. I don't plan on rebuilding unless I have to but it would make sense to spend the money upfront and have the ability to up in power if you want or use a turbo that is efficient with having to max it out to get 450+.
Am I wrong in my thinking.
So before i was thinking MAP SST/BBK FULL (rmoured XL)/FP HTA GREEN or Red (or rumoured black). Now I can add a Fullrace T4 TS 35R to the mix. I mean if it doesn't loose spool time then to me besides the price this is a no brainer.
Oct 18, 2009, 08:50 PM
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well i pulled the trigger and got me a BW S300 83/75
i can say anything but fantastic things about my kit
its insane and its spools fast
I shouldnt have doubted or waited so long to get it
to date since its installation I only lost to one car and it was an STi with a 35R and methanol
nothing else has come close past second gear and that race was about the top of 4th going into 5th
noone commented because I probably didnt post the handwritten dynosheet I made up
its not the greatest way to compare but it helped me in decidiing what turbo to get
i can say anything but fantastic things about my kit
its insane and its spools fast
I shouldnt have doubted or waited so long to get it
to date since its installation I only lost to one car and it was an STi with a 35R and methanol
nothing else has come close past second gear and that race was about the top of 4th going into 5th
noone commented because I probably didnt post the handwritten dynosheet I made up
its not the greatest way to compare but it helped me in decidiing what turbo to get
Oct 19, 2009, 05:52 PM
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I'm curious why no one commented a few pages back (I know this post is old) on 555R's post when he said he overlaid a full race plot over a stock IX and they were identical until 4k rpm's. If this is the norm....then why is it always said that the stock frame turbo upgrades are better then going GT35R on a stock motor... So before i was thinking MAP SST/BBK FULL (rmoured XL)/FP HTA GREEN or Red (or rumoured black). Now I can add a Fullrace T4 TS 35R to the mix. I mean if it doesn't loose spool time then to me besides the price this is a no brainer.
well i pulled the trigger and got me a BW S300 83/75 i cant say anything but fantastic things about my kit its insane and its spools fast I shouldnt have doubted or waited so long to get it to date since its installation I only lost to one car and it was an STi with a 35R and methanol nothing else has come close past second gear and that race was about the top of 4th going into 5th noone commented because I probably didnt post the handwritten dynosheet I made up its not the greatest way to compare but it helped me in decidiing what turbo to get
Oct 19, 2009, 06:03 PM
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Just last night I had a friend who owns a 35R-powered EVO get behind the wheel of my car so I could sit shotgun and do some tuning. We hadn't even gone but a couple hundred yards down the street when he said, "Whoa, how did you get your car to feel so torquey? It feels awesome and we haven't even got into boost!"
He's now saving for a twinscroll conversion. LOL
He's now saving for a twinscroll conversion. LOL
Feb 16, 2010, 08:08 AM
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Just last night I had a friend who owns a 35R-powered EVO get behind the wheel of my car so I could sit shotgun and do some tuning. We hadn't even gone but a couple hundred yards down the street when he said, "Whoa, how did you get your car to feel so torquey? It feels awesome and we haven't even got into boost!"
He's now saving for a twinscroll conversion. LOL
He's now saving for a twinscroll conversion. LOL
Feb 16, 2010, 09:20 AM
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I have a ts full race 3076 and sold my cheap xs power twin scroll manifold and got a full race single scroll manifold. The spool up with the single scroll manifold vs twin scroll on my car is extremely different. The ts spooled at least 400 to 500 rpm sooner. I now kind of regret the decision I made. So my vote is twinscroll all the way for bottom end. I am going to redyno with my new singlescroll and see the difference.
Feb 16, 2010, 01:11 PM
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I have a ts full race 3076 and sold my cheap xs power twin scroll manifold and got a full race single scroll manifold. The spool up with the single scroll manifold vs twin scroll on my car is extremely different. The ts spooled at least 400 to 500 rpm sooner. I now kind of regret the decision I made. So my vote is twinscroll all the way for bottom end. I am going to redyno with my new singlescroll and see the difference.