Stikiller666

Does anyone know how to shrink the file size using coral photo 6. It keeps saying my chart is too big to upload and I have no clue how to down size it. Thanks

04AWDTURBOEVO

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Here is your Dyno Graph, Dan.

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Great place to host images .

Stikiller666

Thanks man......Ill post the other chart of me making 527 whp tonight. What do you think?

04AWDTURBOEVO

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The Graph is very nice, Dan. Good numbers .
The Turbo spools faster than I thought.




Here is my graph, and a chart that I made by looking at both of our plots.



Dan 3076r WHP TQ Manie 20GLT WHP TQ

@ 4000 175 230 @ 4000 297 396
@ 5000 440 468 @ 5000 460 479
@ 6000 485 460 @ 6000 490 429
@ 7000 505 400 @ 7000 473 363
@ 7800 480 360 @ 7800 446 308


*10 percent added to the 20G Dynojet numbers to be able to compare to a Dynapack Dyno.


I believe that the Dynapack reads about 10 to 15 percent higher than a Dynojet.
So I added 10 percent to my numbers at those rpms.

As you can see, the aka Green Turbo will make a little more power than the 3076r up to/near redline, 7K. And it has a faster spool. By that time, the extra 20-40 hp/tq the 3076 makes from 7K to 7800 rpms will not make a huge difference on that last 500 rpms.

Stikiller666

the dynojet reads 10-15whp lower than the dynapack. We have both in this area.

Stikiller666

At 29psi I made 503 on the dynojet.....the mustang reads 10-15% lower than the dynapack though. My goodfriend nate at tpgtuning tunes for sbr. Thats where the dynapack is located. He also teaches tuning at wyotech where the dynojet is located. He said he has never seen more than an 18whp difference from the same car he did baselines on fromdyno to dyno. So we should refigure those numbers to about 3% difference.....not the 10%. IM NOT BENCH RACING OR PUTTING YOU DOWN. This is to give info to the person who started this thread about the difference in these turbos. Now here is something else for you. Two years ago at Buschur racing my car put down 339whp and 306ftlbs at 23psi 93 octane. My mod list was the same except for the meth, Buschur ported intake manifold, Buschur 65mm TB, and the AEM. I did have a standalone. It was the Apexi power FC. I only ran street tires and my best time with a 1.70 sixty foot was 11.56 at 121.88mph. I saw your video link and you were trapping 120mph. I was wondering how much boost you were running. Now just last summer I put the AEM, ported intake manifold, 65mm TB, Buschur meth kit. I went back to Buschur and asked Dave for a conservative tune. The car made 434whp and 356ftlbs at 28psi. I never got the run the car last year. This year i went to SBR and baslined Daves tune and the car put down 466whp and 420ftlbs. After that we tuned the car with a more aggressive map and my final numbers were 527whp/484ftlbs at 30 psi. The dynochart posted here is at 29psi. So im hoping for trap speeds around 127mph but who knows till I go next wed.

Here are the numbers at 3% which is more realistic...remember this is my 29psi chart not the 30psi. My numbers would higher with that chart. I used this chart because i didnt have other available at the time it was posted

Stikiller666GT3076r.............................04 AWDTURBOEVOGreen

4000rpm 175whp 230ftlbs.......................... 284whp 371ftlbs
5000rpm 440whp 468ftlbs.......................... 431whp 450ftlbs
6000rpm 485whp 460ftlbs.......................... 463whp 402ftlbs
7000rpm 505whp 400ftlbs.......................... 443whp 339ftlbs
7800rpm 480whp 360ftlbs.......................... 410whp 287ftlbs

Now these numbers for both of us might be a little off but only single digits. I did not recalculate my numbers. I was going off what you put down. I did go over your chart and change them a little but for the most part I went off of what you had down already. I hope this shows some differences between the two turbos. I dont know what psi you were running to make those numbers but iwas running 29. Hope this helps.

EvoHung

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Very nice thread, a lot of useful information.

Stikiller666

Like i said im not being a dick. This is just for information our turbos. Its to show whp and ftlbs of tq at different rpm ranges. Let me know what boost your running so we can post that up

Randy

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3076 all the way!
Chose a good kit and the performance parts to match it, you wont regret it. And they really love the C16 jajajaj. Good luck and enjoy the ride!

Stikiller666

Thanks.....I hope it helps

HaVoC RR

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Like i keep sayin ..i love my 3076R

sspaladin28

iTrader: (25)

Are you running a stock Bottom end on your setup? I see your list of mods/your boost/your whp-tq ratings, but no bottom end upgrades.

Thanks

04AWDTURBOEVO

iTrader: (26)

Is all good information, Dan.

My set up still on the stock ECU, with an AEM, Mr. Buschur has gained 30+ more HP on a green over stock ECU.

I run 264i/272e HKS Cams, the smallest set-up you can have on Cams. Tom, 9sec9 has gained 3-4 percent more HP, by changing HKS's Cams to higher lift Junes.

I don't have a larger TB, and use the stock un-uported intake.

Every little bit helps.

Looking at your new corrections, both turbos are very close.
The 20G shines in the low and mid-range, and the 3076 on the top.

You say that on that Dyno run you were holding 30 psi at 7800 rpms.

On my Dyno run, I was holding 24~25 psi at 7800 rpms.

Several weeks ago, we took the car to the track, only had 1 run, missed a gear, and coasted the rest of the way down the track.

Here is the slip, my car on the right, #6435.



That was going to be a nice run, 123-125 traps, very low 11's.

We will never know until I run it again.

I am changing to a Tial BOV next, and will take it to the Dynojet after that.
It should be making a little more power with the change, as I think I am loosing boost with my current one.

Stikiller666

I agree......The green does spool faster. It has bottom end and great midrange power. The 3076r pulls harder from the mid to upper rpms. I mean look at the flow charts for both turbo green 47lbs a min vs Gt3076r 52lbs a min. They are very close. It just depends on what your looking for. I think you and gave some great information on this thread in a civil manner. Thats cool as hell. Im running my car next wed, so we will have to compare then. Make sure you dont forget about this thread so we can update it for the people who want to know the difference. One thing I will say about the Gt3076r is that its able to hold 30psi all the way to 7800rpms. SteelcityEVO8 who posted in this thread was running the same setup as me except for the 65mm TB, ported intake manifold, and meth. He used a 104 octane map at 25-26psi from BR. He raced that green as he said earlier. That green arouund the PGH area was cleaning up on a good bit of evos. It was modded well, plus it was running meth tuned at 29psi. The turbo could not hold the 29psi though. It would spike and fall to 26 psi. It would stay steady there. So i do think the 3076r does sustain higher boost better because its bigger. Steelcity and the evogreen raced many times. Always from a roll. The green would pull out in 2nd gear (quicker spool & better low end/midrange). Third gear steelcity would be next to the green slightly pulling ahead. Fourth gear....taillights. The kid with the green had almost every bolt on i.e. no intake manifold or TB. It was no slouch. Steelcity's best time at the track on street tires 11.1@ 125mph. He was only running 26psi. Since we had the same turbo kit..........plus every other mod the same except like i said, I have 65mm TB, Ported intake manifold, and im tuned at 30psi.....i hope to see 10's. It will be nice to compare our 1/8th mile times and mph. Plus everything after ie 1000ft etc. This is a good thread and your teaching me something as well about the green

Stikiller666

No........ stock engine other than ARP headstuds and HKS 272 cams I know im pushing it.