Hydrogen powered Evo???, MitsuBeastly
May 28, 2008, 08:41 AM
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I love how threads stay ON TOPIC!!!!
but neways, i didnt start this to use ANY alternative fuel source, and yes, Hydrogen is a VIOLENT gas, but, the hydrogen used is NOT stored, it is immediately used, NO TANK TO HOLD IT, just the tank to make it...
I need ways to make this work, not suggestions on what else to use...
my worries currently,
HOW MUCH does H2Ice increase cylinder pressures???
What about the EXTENSIVE vacuum a turbo car will produce, and a way to avoid sucking up water from the tank...
Ignition and combustion temps of hydrogen, will this cause or prevent preignition, and raise or lower EGT's???
BTW, this is my local forum a lil more info here...
http://www.lastreetkings.com/forum/v...?p=10186#10186
but neways, i didnt start this to use ANY alternative fuel source, and yes, Hydrogen is a VIOLENT gas, but, the hydrogen used is NOT stored, it is immediately used, NO TANK TO HOLD IT, just the tank to make it...
I need ways to make this work, not suggestions on what else to use...
my worries currently,
HOW MUCH does H2Ice increase cylinder pressures???
What about the EXTENSIVE vacuum a turbo car will produce, and a way to avoid sucking up water from the tank...
Ignition and combustion temps of hydrogen, will this cause or prevent preignition, and raise or lower EGT's???
BTW, this is my local forum a lil more info here...
http://www.lastreetkings.com/forum/v...?p=10186#10186
May 28, 2008, 09:32 AM
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I love how threads stay ON TOPIC!!!!
but neways, i didnt start this to use ANY alternative fuel source, and yes, Hydrogen is a VIOLENT gas, but, the hydrogen used is NOT stored, it is immediately used, NO TANK TO HOLD IT, just the tank to make it...
I need ways to make this work, not suggestions on what else to use...
my worries currently,
HOW MUCH does H2Ice increase cylinder pressures???
What about the EXTENSIVE vacuum a turbo car will produce, and a way to avoid sucking up water from the tank...
Ignition and combustion temps of hydrogen, will this cause or prevent preignition, and raise or lower EGT's???
BTW, this is my local forum a lil more info here...
http://www.lastreetkings.com/forum/v...?p=10186#10186
but neways, i didnt start this to use ANY alternative fuel source, and yes, Hydrogen is a VIOLENT gas, but, the hydrogen used is NOT stored, it is immediately used, NO TANK TO HOLD IT, just the tank to make it...
I need ways to make this work, not suggestions on what else to use...
my worries currently,
HOW MUCH does H2Ice increase cylinder pressures???
What about the EXTENSIVE vacuum a turbo car will produce, and a way to avoid sucking up water from the tank...
Ignition and combustion temps of hydrogen, will this cause or prevent preignition, and raise or lower EGT's???
BTW, this is my local forum a lil more info here...
http://www.lastreetkings.com/forum/v...?p=10186#10186
May 28, 2008, 09:36 AM
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cool man... just be CAREFUL, we are using MAF not speed density so idk about that aspect, and also, out cylinder pressured are pretty phenominal and the amount of vacuum, hell, it might be fine, but then again, your not slapping it on a civic... its an EVO... lol... i was looking at it yes, for fuel economy, but also for performance... it's cool you're interrested... thx
May 28, 2008, 11:53 AM
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cool man... just be CAREFUL, we are using MAF not speed density so idk about that aspect, and also, out cylinder pressured are pretty phenominal and the amount of vacuum, hell, it might be fine, but then again, your not slapping it on a civic... its an EVO... lol... i was looking at it yes, for fuel economy, but also for performance... it's cool you're interrested... thx
May 28, 2008, 12:31 PM
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cool... there ya go then, your all set, now what about tuning??? and what about accidentally sucking up water??? is it possible??? EGT's, and ignition temps... detonation???
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May 29, 2008, 08:33 AM
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As far as sucking up water, I don't think that is an issue either, depending on how you design your water tank and whether or not it tips over or something. I don't think there is enough vacuum otherwise to worry about sucking up water from the tank.
I did some quick math on the amount of brown's gas that the Hydro 4000 is supposed to make and I don't see how people are making double the MPG, unless something in my math was wrong. They say the Hydro 4000 makes 2-3 L/min of H2 + O2. Depending on airflow conditions, that would equate to about 5-10% of the total combustion energy.
Anyway, if you do this, post up your results. I'm interested in what you find.
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May 29, 2008, 08:41 AM
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ok, so Hydrogen accelerates the combustion time of fuels like gas and diesel,
it's all burned at once, raising cylinder pressures, and optimizing your fuel by using it at the most oportune time...
now the only problem is when does it ignite??? i believe that the ignition temp would be higher on Hydrogen, so pre-ignition wouldnt be a problem, (like running a higher octane fuel) but, i also believe that you would need to retard your timing to get the most benefit out of this setup... due to the fact that the fuel and gas combination explodes immediately and violently...
sound correct???
it's all burned at once, raising cylinder pressures, and optimizing your fuel by using it at the most oportune time...
now the only problem is when does it ignite??? i believe that the ignition temp would be higher on Hydrogen, so pre-ignition wouldnt be a problem, (like running a higher octane fuel) but, i also believe that you would need to retard your timing to get the most benefit out of this setup... due to the fact that the fuel and gas combination explodes immediately and violently...
sound correct???