Indy Intake V2 done and tested.
Jun 18, 2008 | 03:53 PM
#46
I completely missed page 2, haha, sorry guys.
I will run this intake manifold, Indy V2, higher in the RPM's when I put the car back on the dyno. I do most of my testing up to around 7500 rpm to save wear and tear on the car, I do HUNDREDS of dyno pulls on this car so it takes a toll on it. I have said this before but if I type my name in the dyno computer to look up my charts it gives me an error that says, "Search exceeds 1,000, re-define search." So the car has well over 1,000 dyno runs on it. Think about that.
I did say "650" yesterday. The dyno main screen when it finishes a run (I have said this before too in many threads) shows an uncorrected/unsmoothed number on the screeen. When you view/print the chart that number is less unless the smoothing for the chart is set to "0". I run our dyno with the smoothing on 60.
Yesterday the highest unsmoothed run from yesterday was 650-522 but the run was lean, the next run was when I added fuel to it and that is what I tested against today with no other changes.
I made reference to the "650" in passing, I didn't say it was the final number or any details. Just said the car was doing well and made "650".
Also, through all this intake manifold testing I did NOT re-dyno our standard ported intake with the 65mm TB. The two parts gain right at 15 whp over the stock intake/stock TB. During all this testing I used a stone stock intake and TB to test against.
I will run this intake manifold, Indy V2, higher in the RPM's when I put the car back on the dyno. I do most of my testing up to around 7500 rpm to save wear and tear on the car, I do HUNDREDS of dyno pulls on this car so it takes a toll on it. I have said this before but if I type my name in the dyno computer to look up my charts it gives me an error that says, "Search exceeds 1,000, re-define search." So the car has well over 1,000 dyno runs on it. Think about that.
I did say "650" yesterday. The dyno main screen when it finishes a run (I have said this before too in many threads) shows an uncorrected/unsmoothed number on the screeen. When you view/print the chart that number is less unless the smoothing for the chart is set to "0". I run our dyno with the smoothing on 60.
Yesterday the highest unsmoothed run from yesterday was 650-522 but the run was lean, the next run was when I added fuel to it and that is what I tested against today with no other changes.
I made reference to the "650" in passing, I didn't say it was the final number or any details. Just said the car was doing well and made "650".
Also, through all this intake manifold testing I did NOT re-dyno our standard ported intake with the 65mm TB. The two parts gain right at 15 whp over the stock intake/stock TB. During all this testing I used a stone stock intake and TB to test against.
Jun 18, 2008 | 04:02 PM
#48
The intake pricing does NOT include a core.
I believe when the clutch/tires hook on the dyno Indy is going to be happy with the results. I will be doing more testing as soon as I get some more race fuel here, I only made 3 runs with the car, each run that midrange raised up because the clutch was grabbing harder, if I had enough fuel to make another 3 runs the gains would have been across the entire range.
I believe when the clutch/tires hook on the dyno Indy is going to be happy with the results. I will be doing more testing as soon as I get some more race fuel here, I only made 3 runs with the car, each run that midrange raised up because the clutch was grabbing harder, if I had enough fuel to make another 3 runs the gains would have been across the entire range.
Jun 18, 2008 | 04:04 PM
#49
Sorry, the Driven Innovations intake is less money. I have DI intakes on our shelf and will continue to sell them as they work very good. I have them instock and ready to ship for $900. The 3" throttle body option from DI is an additional $600, I have those in stock too.
Jun 18, 2008 | 04:21 PM
#50
i agree with the $1500 price tag is steep for a "stock" mainfold, i know the make awsome power as we can see but still its 1500 bucks!! basically u pay for the services done on the intake. i wish i had an extra 1500 bucks to get one but iam buying a buschur short block this week! would be nice if i could get a buschur stage 3 block and indy v2 mani!!!!
Jun 18, 2008 | 04:32 PM
#52
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for the emissions **** states, this manifold is a godsend. Someone in Cali better slap this thing on a Green setup and see how it does. I'm talking undercover stealth, pass smog type setup.
Jun 18, 2008 | 04:59 PM
#55
Amazing work JIM! I think this shows the level that Indy and BR are taking the next generation of parts to. 
As far as the price i think it is fair and anybody that is going to complain should go purchase a intake from ebay. You are getting a product that is proven backed with results and tons of man hours in the development. Not something that was just slapped together and sold. We dont own Honda's please remember that people and try and keep the EVO name what it is.
Chris
As far as the price i think it is fair and anybody that is going to complain should go purchase a intake from ebay. You are getting a product that is proven backed with results and tons of man hours in the development. Not something that was just slapped together and sold. We dont own Honda's please remember that people and try and keep the EVO name what it is.
Chris
Jun 18, 2008 | 05:11 PM
#57
Jun 18, 2008 | 05:17 PM
#58
The people who have our normal ported intake manifold is the same. There is so much work that goes into this manifold that I don't see Wilson taking anything off the pricing for one we have port matched.
Please also keep in mind that the only credit I get on this is taking the time to swap the intakes on and off my car and test them. I didn't develop these, the credit goes to Indy EVO and Wilson Manifolds.
I am reading the WOW factor on the pricing but I think a closer look needs to be taken:
DI intake, $900 and a 3" throttle body, $600, total $1500.
Indy V2, $1550 and a 65 mm throttle body, $300.
The difference is $350 and there are enough gains to justify that. For many of you, you already own the 65 mm throttle body.
Also consider the HKS Kansai intake that is $2,000 for just the intake if you can get one that cheap. The Hypertune also ends up being over $2,000.
The Indy V2 is actually the only intake that uses each and every stock part on it and that you could actually get by strict emission laws if you had to.
Please also keep in mind that the only credit I get on this is taking the time to swap the intakes on and off my car and test them. I didn't develop these, the credit goes to Indy EVO and Wilson Manifolds.
I am reading the WOW factor on the pricing but I think a closer look needs to be taken:
DI intake, $900 and a 3" throttle body, $600, total $1500.
Indy V2, $1550 and a 65 mm throttle body, $300.
The difference is $350 and there are enough gains to justify that. For many of you, you already own the 65 mm throttle body.
Also consider the HKS Kansai intake that is $2,000 for just the intake if you can get one that cheap. The Hypertune also ends up being over $2,000.
The Indy V2 is actually the only intake that uses each and every stock part on it and that you could actually get by strict emission laws if you had to.
Jun 18, 2008 | 05:35 PM
#59
The price is fine by me. If I really want it I can always save for it. At the least, when I'm ready I know exactly what to expect.
So thanks for the test David! Looks like I'll stick with your original ported manifold, which I know will work just fine too!
So thanks for the test David! Looks like I'll stick with your original ported manifold, which I know will work just fine too!
Jun 18, 2008 | 05:54 PM
#60
Nice work Indy(Jim), Buschur, and anyone else involved. Definitly a nice option or heck, full route to take for....anyone looking to spend that kind of money 
Dave, how about a test with one of these on an evo green
Let us know when a customer comes in with that combo (read: 9sec9 hint hint!!!)
Dave, how about a test with one of these on an evo green
Let us know when a customer comes in with that combo (read: 9sec9 hint hint!!!)